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    "all the times the science world was 100% wrong?"

    how about all the time religions were wrong, and labeled people heretics, and tortured or killed them?

    how many religions went to war and killed 100Ms of people in other religions?

    it's awfully silly to defend Religion over science, but keep trying.





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    Science is simply too limited.
    So you're gonna dismiss it's findings.

    How narrow minded.

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    "all the times the science world was 100% wrong?"

    how about all the time religions were wrong, and labeled people heretics, and tortured or killed them?

    how many religions went to war and killed 100Ms of people in other religions?

    it's awfully silly to defend Religion over science, but keep trying.




    Science is open minded.

    religion is close minded.

    Avante is narrow minded.

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    Look at the dummies up there, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

    Ok, which one of you dummies can explain just how did DNA come about?
    Explain how your DNA ended up in some 12 year old girl in Olongapo.

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    It's 1936, Jesse Owens has just ran a 10.3 100m to win the Olympics gold medal.

    If asked back in 1936 just how fast can a human being run science will use 10.3 as the starting point. They will take into consideration how the event has progressed over the last 50 years and try to project the next 50 and then get some sort of average per 25 years. But, there is no system, no playing with numbers that will give them......9.58. Ya see back then there were no 6-5 sprinters with 45.2 400m ability. That 400m ability giving any 100m sprinter a whole other level of speed endurance, which is the key to 100m sprinting. Usain Bolt has a stride unlike any other 100m sprinter.

    Science would come up with about 9.8. Which is way off.

    Science can never see those outliers, the exceptions to the rules. Something we see all the time.

    Franco Columbo the former Mr.Olympia would be considered obese on any of those height/weight charts. You see science can only deal with the normal. They can't predict the abnormal. Calvin Johnson is abnormal, Shaq, and it goes on and on.

    Science is simply too limited.
    How do you know Shaq is abnormal? How do you know Franco isn't obese?

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    How many planets are there in our scholar system? Do I really need to go on and on and on and on with all the times the science world was 100% wrong? Well?
    we've already had the "science has been wrong" discussion. the difference is science is flexible. when science is wrong, guess who finds out that they were wrong? oh, other scientists. einstein, a scientist, is the one who showed newton's laws of gravity were wrong. theories involving something like god, which can't be proven nor disproven, are inflexible. they've held the same belief for thousands of years.

    if scientists makes mistakes, they own up to it, make corrections, and move on. i find it unlikely the creationists have been 100% correct about everything this whole time. but they haven't corrected anything or moved on from anything. they're still fixated on the same archaic view

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    Eukaryotes: A new timetable of evolution


    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-ean060315.php

    Scientists keeps science-ing, you creationists keep bull ting.


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    "all the times the science world was 100% wrong?"

    how about all the time religions were wrong, and labeled people heretics, and tortured or killed them?

    how many religions went to war and killed 100Ms of people in other religions?

    it's awfully silly to defend Religion over science, but keep trying.




    Who is defending religion? I;m not religious at all, it's a load of bull .

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    we've already had the "science has been wrong" discussion. the difference is science is flexible. when science is wrong, guess who finds out that they were wrong? oh, other scientists. einstein, a scientist, is the one who showed newton's laws of gravity were wrong. theories involving something like god, which can't be proven nor disproven, are inflexible. they've held the same belief for thousands of years.

    if scientists makes mistakes, they own up to it, make corrections, and move on. i find it unlikely the creationists have been 100% correct about everything this whole time. but they haven't corrected anything or moved on from anything. they're still fixated on the same archaic view
    What does that have to do with being wrong? Science has been proven wrong tons of times.

    Prove the creationists are wrong, it's never been done.

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    What does that have to do with being wrong? Science has been proven wrong tons of times.

    Prove the creationists are wrong, it's never been done.
    Creationists have been wrong about quite a few things. The church had galileo killed for insinuating that the earth revolved around the sun

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    Creationists have been wrong about quite a few things. The church had galileo killed for insinuating that the earth revolved around the sun
    No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

    Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

    Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bull , do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't ing know for sure, ok?

    Let it go ,ok?

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    No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

    Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

    Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bull , do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't ing know for sure, ok?

    Let it go ,ok?
    It had nothing to do with beliefs? Lol it was all about their belief of the sun revolving around the earth

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    No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

    Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

    Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bull , do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't ing know for sure, ok?

    Let it go ,ok?
    They do know for sure. You're stupid. And fat.

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    "Science has been wrong many many many times"

    therefore, all science is wrong? science is wrong, after 150+ years of research, observation, is wrong about biological evolution?

    your creationism is wrong now, and has NEVER been right, is not testable, is unscientific, irrational crap





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    Australian fossil forces rethink on our ancestors' emergence onto land

    A 333-million year old broken bone is causing fossil scientists to reconsider the evolution of land-dwelling vertebrate animals, says a team of palaeontologists, including QUT evolutionary biologist Dr Matthew Phillips, and colleagues at Monash University and Queensland Museum.

    Analysis of a fractured and partially healed radius (front-leg bone) fromOssinodus pueri, a large, primitive, four-legged (tetrapod), salamander-like animal, found in Queensland, pushes back the date for the origin of demonstrably terrestrial vertebrates by two million years, said Dr Phillips, a researcher in the Vertebrate Evolution Group in QUT's School of Earth, Environmental and Biological Sciences.


    "Previously described partial skeletons of Ossinodus suggest this species could grow to more than 2m long and perhaps to around 50kg," Dr Phillips said.


    "Its age raises the possibility that the first animals to emerge from the water to live on land were large tetrapods in Gondwana in the southern hemisphere, rather than smaller species in Europe.


    "The evolution of land-dwelling tetrapods from fish is a pivotal phase in the history of vertebrates because it called for huge physical changes, such as weight bearing skeletons and dependence on air-breathing."


    Dr Phillips said the nature of the break in the radius bone was studied using high-resolution finite element analysis by Peter Bishop for his honours research at QUT.

    "The nature of the fracture suggests the bone broke under high-force impact.

    "The break was most plausibly caused by a fall on land because such force would be difficult to achieve with the cushioning effect of water.


    "Indeed, the fracture is somewhat reminiscent of people falling on an outstretched arm and the humerus crashing into and fracturing the radius."

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...cienceDaily%29




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    For those Xians who probably wont even watch the video...

    1. God is all Powerful.

    2. God loves Everyone.

    3. There is suffering in the world.


    Reconcile all 3 of those statements "TOGETHER" while explaining the reality of the world today.






    in our world TODAY a child DIES every 5 SECONDS.

    In our world TODAY 25 people die every MINUTE from diseases from unclean water.

    Every HOUR TODAY 300 people die from Malaria.

    If "god" is all powerful and can intervene, why doesn't he?


    The answer???

    BECAUSE HE IS NOT REAL!!!
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    No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

    Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

    Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bull , do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't ing know for sure, ok?

    Let it go ,ok?
    Of course the idea of life on Earth evolving from other life could be wrong.
    So now you come to the following questions that are much tougher:

    1. So how do new species arise mechanistically? Or you want the religious, poof, they just came about, Uhhh, because they just did.
    2. What about Evolution do you find incomprehensible?

    So far, every one of your reasons given for #2 are absolutely ignorant and NOT what science has said. You just think up some of the most bizzare statements you can, and then put it under your guise of what science says. You continuously fall back on this absurd tactic. Thinking people, with any knowlege of the subject, can see right through your silly, idiotic statements about what science says... "I did not come from that little worm or cell ..." It's obnoxiously tiring and you can't push thru it. It some magical envelope for you.


    A much better question could be ' why did it take eukaryotes so damn long to evolve from prokaryotes?' (Boots article should arouse your curiosity) If you could mechanistically go through why this could not happen it would be a revelation and actually have value.

    Then we could have an actual conversation that would be worthwhile. But you can't get to that level. Like a child who has no real recognition of others, just self, you can't fathom the leap. Your head will explode. It's a quantum leap for a pea brained list maker. I feel somewhat sorry you can't get it.

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    Of course the idea of life on Earth evolving from other life could be wrong.
    So now you come to the following questions that are much tougher:

    1. So how do new species arise mechanistically? Or you want the religious, poof, they just came about, Uhhh, because they just did.
    2. What about Evolution do you find incomprehensible?

    So far, every one of your reasons given for #2 are absolutely ignorant and NOT what science has said. You just think up some of the most bizzare statements you can, and then put it under your guise of what science says. You continuously fall back on this absurd tactic. Thinking people, with any knowlege of the subject, can see right through your silly, idiotic statements about what science says... "I did not come from that little worm or cell ..." It's obnoxiously tiring and you can't push thru it. It some magical envelope for you.


    A much better question could be ' why did it take eukaryotes so damn long to evolve from prokaryotes?' (Boots article should arouse your curiosity) If you could mechanistically go through why this could not happen it would be a revelation and actually have value.

    Then we could have an actual conversation that would be worthwhile. But you can't get to that level. Like a child who has no real recognition of others, just self, you can't fathom the leap. Your head will explode. It's a quantum leap for a pea brained list maker. I feel somewhat sorry you can't get it.
    I can already answer on behalf of the ignorant...

    "we don't know, Therefore invisible sky daddy did it, I also believe in Santa and unicorns!!!! Do not judge me for those beliefs as I am an adult and totally not indoctrinated, even though I have no concept of logical thinking for my self, I need to be treated with respect for being an adult and believing in imaginary friends!!!"

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    If you have such depraved thoughts that the ONLY thing holding you back from being a rapist murderer is a chance that there is a "god" and that is the only thing holding you back from doing that crazy , then you are a really ed up person and any righteous god, regardless of your acceptance for him, would send you to " ".

    Fortunately, even though if that were true, it is probably not the case.

    Do you remember anything before being born?

    Death is probably like that.

    We got this one life to live and that is it. Enjoy it.

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    Of course the idea of life on Earth evolving from other life could be wrong.
    So now you come to the following questions that are much tougher:

    1. So how do new species arise mechanistically? Or you want the religious, poof, they just came about, Uhhh, because they just did.
    2. What about Evolution do you find incomprehensible?

    So far, every one of your reasons given for #2 are absolutely ignorant and NOT what science has said. You just think up some of the most bizzare statements you can, and then put it under your guise of what science says. You continuously fall back on this absurd tactic. Thinking people, with any knowlege of the subject, can see right through your silly, idiotic statements about what science says... "I did not come from that little worm or cell ..." It's obnoxiously tiring and you can't push thru it. It some magical envelope for you.


    A much better question could be ' why did it take eukaryotes so damn long to evolve from prokaryotes?' (Boots article should arouse your curiosity) If you could mechanistically go through why this could not happen it would be a revelation and actually have value.

    Then we could have an actual conversation that would be worthwhile. But you can't get to that level. Like a child who has no real recognition of others, just self, you can't fathom the leap. Your head will explode. It's a quantum leap for a pea brained list maker. I feel somewhat sorry you can't get it.
    The fun I have with this topic is watching idiots like you and the rest of these dumb s trying to push yours beliefs down everyone throats, when ya really don't know a damn thing abouit nothing.

    Ok?

    Look at yourself, you how ya act, do you really believe anyone wants to discuss anything with a prick like you?

    Go suck a , ok?

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    Explain how your DNA ended up in some 12 year old girl in Olongapo.
    Do you really believe 12 year old girls were hustling drinks, are you simply re ed?

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    For those Xians who probably wont even watch the video...

    1. God is all Powerful.

    2. God loves Everyone.

    3. There is suffering in the world.


    Reconcile all 3 of those statements "TOGETHER" while explaining the reality of the world today.






    in our world TODAY a child DIES every 5 SECONDS.

    In our world TODAY 25 people die every MINUTE from diseases from unclean water.

    Every HOUR TODAY 300 people die from Malaria.

    If "god" is all powerful and can intervene, why doesn't he?


    The answer???

    BECAUSE HE IS NOT REAL!!!
    Tell that to the billions and billions and billions of those who believed in Him before your re ed little ass came along.

    You're a ing idiot!

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    Just how many morons/idots live in Texas anyway? It's incredible the amount of stupidity I see here, wow!

    I discovered this band a few months ago, I couldn't understand how I didn't know about them, remember I know everything. Obviously these guys aren't kids.

    For some reason they had never recorded a CD before. Why??????


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    I'm tired of the evolution bull , ok little people? You s don't and it's obvious ok? Now watch some got totally disregard what I just said, sheesh~~~~

    Moving on.....



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    I REALLY do NOT want to create another thread about this topic.... Do "believers" even understand what a "THEORY" is in the context of science?

    Do you people even realize how FRUSTRATING it is to argue with someone who doesn't even understand the basic principles of what we are discussing?

    It is literally like answering a child who keeps asking "why?" for every answer you give.

    the "Theory" of Evolution is LITERALLY the same as the "theory" of GRAVITY. We know about gravity and the "theory" of it helps explain it.... Just because it is a "theory" doesn't mean it is just a fantasy. We KNOW Gravity exist, the Theory, although incomplete, helps explain it.

    This also applies to the "theory" of evolution..... We have bountiful evidence to help support the "theory" therefore until someone comes up with a contradictory theses that stands up to scientific scrutiny, it will stand as the best model... Just FYI, Evolution has been under scrutiny for almost 200 years and is one of the most robust "Theories" ever to be posited in the human race.

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