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    Has Messi ever won a World Cup?

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    Has Messi ever won a World Cup?
    Nope, he came pretty damn close last year with a flawed, injured team though.

    It still hurts

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    Has Messi ever won a World Cup?
    No. He's played in 3 World Cups but last summer was his coming out party

    He could hypothetically play in 2 more. But Argentina is so strong he would probably be a super-sub in 2022

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    Nope, he came pretty damn close last year with a flawed, injured team though.

    It still hurts
    Argentina had the Top Defense in the Tournament and they didn't play any good teams til nearly 1 month into the compe ion

    Argentina managed 1..........1 single goal in 3 Knockout Games. Messi?

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    No way those guys are better than Ronaldo9 though..

    It blows my mind how Ronaldo is almost always never in a top 5 player list....

    Even Pele's resume isn't better than Ronaldo..
    He had a tough end to his career. But that's the thing, we do not know how Cristiano or Messi's careers will finish off.

    How much was his weight problem caused by his health issues?

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    Regarding the GOAT debate, some years ago (before Messi exploded) FIFA selected the top 4 players ever:

    -Distefano played from 1945 to 1966.
    -Pele played from 1956 to 1977
    -Cruyff played from 1964 to 1984
    -Maradona played from 1976 to 1997

    All of these guys were the unquestionable best player of their respective era like Messi is now. That's why every non-biased GOAT discussion revolves around these 5 players.
    I'm not seeing the "unquestionable best player" in Messi

    If Curry wins the le this week and then another regular season MVP next season, would you still call James the "undisputed best player?" Ronaldo won 2-straight MVPs up to now

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    Argentina had the Top Defense in the Tournament and they didn't play any good teams til nearly 1 month into the compe ion

    Argentina managed 1..........1 single goal in 3 Knockout Games. Messi?
    Argentina didn't have the best defense. In fact our defenders were so ty in the group stage (where we managed to avoid the historical embarrassment of getting eliminated by the likes of Bosnia, Iran and Nigeria only thanks to Messi) that Sabella decided to scratch the offensive minded 4-3-3 (where Messi shined) to an ultra defensive 4-4-2 so that our ty defenders didn't get exposed so much. That's why the goal tally decreased as well as Messi's involvement on games. It's hard for a playmaker to do much when your team doesn't have the ball.

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    Let me get this straight - this guy is really the greatest player of this "sport"?



    And he's a midget too? Povertyball

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    I'm not seeing the "unquestionable best player" in Messi

    If Curry wins the le this week and then another regular season MVP next season, would you still call James the "undisputed best player?" Ronaldo won 2-straight MVPs up to now
    Not that I give a about povertyball or the gots that play it, but by your logic, DK was never the undisputed best player in his career. Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Shaq, and Duncan won rings during DK's career and Barkley, D-Rob and Malone won MVP's.

    If the third-world kickball media is anything like the NBA media, they probably give the poverty MVP to different players out of voter fatigue and/or hate for the real best player, which is why Steve Trash, Kirby and Gangster Disciple have won MVP's during LeBron's career.

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    Not that I give a about povertyball or the gots that play it, but by your logic, DK was never the undisputed best player in his career. Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Shaq, and Duncan won rings during DK's career and Barkley, D-Rob and Malone won MVP's.

    If the third-world kickball media is anything like the NBA media, they probably give the poverty MVP to different players out of voter fatigue and/or hate for the real best player, which is why Steve Trash, Kirby and Gangster Disciple have won MVP's during LeBron's career.
    MJ's first MVP in 1988

    1989 - No MVP No le
    1990 - No MVP No le

    Up to this point MJ was not GOAT status. But from 1991-1993 & 1996-1998, he won the MVP or Championship each season. If Barkley or Malone won 2-straight MVPs and 1 Finals le during that time period. Yah that would negatively affect MJ's claim as GOAT



    FIFA does the opposite for their awards. They essentially only reward players from Barcelona or Real Madrid. In the past 5 years, the same 2 teams have Won 86% of the awards. While winning 40% of the UCL les

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    GOD

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    Just beating the scrubs he's supposed to,, jeez it's not Like this is a big game.

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    What a finnish. Jojojojojo

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    but he had a trick vs mighty Panama

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