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Are the 83 Sixers a top 20 team alltime?
Let it go, bro!Yeah, his "legendary" first round of the playoffs shot. How'd he do in the second round again? Oh, that's right, he blew a 3-1 lead and a 19-point lead at home and was petrified to shoot the ball from the 4th quarter for Game 6 until garbage time of Game 7. Might I add that he got punked by ancient fossils like Jason Terry and Pablo Prigioni. He's still never been past the second round of the playoffs.
Leave it to a Suns fan to idolize a loser, though. If Choke Paul had hit that same first-round shot against the Spurs in a Suns uniform, they literally would have thrown a parade downtown
You need to admit you were wrong and move on. Find someone else to be completely wrong about.
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Are the 83 Sixers a top 20 team alltime?
The Spurs lost for 2 major reasons:
1. 2 of their top 3 highest-usage players and only 2 perimeter playmakers declined significantly(age/mileage), with one of them(Parker) having one of the worst series' in playoffs history
2013-2014 Parker, while only being an average player, still put up a 15.8 PER, 17.4 PPG on 53% True Shooting and 4.8 APG
2014-2015 Parker: 6.5 PER(), 10.8 PPG on 39% True Shooting(
2013-2014 Ginobili: 20.3 PER, 14.3 PPG on 59% TS and 4.1 APG
2014-2015 Ginobili: 17 PER, 8 PPG on 53% TS and 4.6 APG
2. They had the #1 5-man unit in the NBA and the best defense in the NBA, this year, in Parker/Green/Leonard/Duncan/Splitter..Splitter could barely walk in the playoffs and was horrendous after being outstanding in the 2014 playoffs, which essentially killed the Spurs' defense, which was evident in the Clippers series..replacing a statistically elite defender with 2 poor defensive bigs in Diaw and Baynes is what you get..
Splitter was one of the 3 best Spurs in all on/off metrics in both the 2013 and 2014 playoff runs, but became a statistical net negative in the 2015 playoffs with his calf injury
So Choke Paul was clutch in the playoffs this year and won a ring?
This is true. They played at a higher level in the Finals than any basketball has ever been played
It's true that they caught lightning in a bottle, they shot better than any team in playoffs history(they shot a higher % on contested shots than uncontested, which is ridiculous), they played way above their heads, but how does that change what they actually did during the run?
Didn't even Sweep the series. What gives
it doesn't change what they did, and that was play way over their heads with a great system everything just kind of fell into place. Don't think they'd beat some of the teams on this list because things tend to average out over time especially the better the compe ion. It's just like how anyone can get hot and hit some shots but it's a different thing to make them consistently against great defense.
They destroyed the back2back defending champions. Is this really that hard to comprehend?
The '99 Spurs started off 6-8 and ended up finishing the regular season 31-5. Then went 15-2 in the playoffs.
I've always thought they're criminally underrated tbh.
I'm not one of those people that like to apply an asterisk, the Spurs were clearly the best team that year but it'd have been interesting to see if they would have been the best over the course of 82 games. The Knicks were obviously better than an 8-seed.
Last edited by Caltex2; 06-19-2015 at 02:06 AM.
Come on man, just because it's the Spurs. Largest margin of victory in Finals history and most 15+ point margin in the playoffs, you must be out of your ing mind to say they don't belong on the list or just hating.I agree with you 100% there, very underrated team.
The backcourt was mediocre but combining a still effective David with what we know now as the best all around big since Kareem ... was almost unfair. Definitely one of the best defensive teams i have ever seen especially at rim protection....if that team had Bowen ...
Robinson wasn't just "still effective", he anchored the defense, and was a huge part of the offense.
Are you serious? You quibbling over word choice? When I say still effective I did not mean it it as a slight you did see I said it was one of the best frontlines ever at rim protection? That was largely due to David who took on Shaq or any of the best bigs on teh opposing team ... jeez.
Still effective speaks to being average.
He did anchor the paint but effective was meant to to say he was not as good as he was in his prime. Robinson defenders point out how key he was to the 1999 squad. Duncan homers act as though Timmy carried Del negro and Avery by himself to a le. That is why I said he was still effective tbh it was meant as a compliment not to say he was average.
Robinson was key. He anchored the defense, and shared a bit of the offense (Duncan clearly had the bigger share though).
03 though, Duncan carried that team to a le. The team was mediocre on paper, but Duncan went 01 Shaq the entire season and carried them to a le.
Yep, he was no longer The Little Mermaid or Chicken of the Sea, eh, Amb?
Blake pussed out too.
Leave it to a Suns fan to idolize a loser, though. If Choke Paul had hit that same first-round shot against the Spurs in a Suns uniform, they literally would have thrown a parade downtown
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