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    The Manu question is much harder. Bc he's scheduled to make less & needs to be signed first, he will take away from cap space immediately since he needs to be signed first. While his new salary in your scenario has Manu making only 3M, that just makes it harder to have the cap space required to sign LA.
    I think if Manu comes back, we'll use the room exception which starts at $2.8m next year. That way to don't need to consider him when thinking about cap space for a free agent and frankly considering how he played last season, he's not worth a whole lot more than that.

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    It should also be mentioned that if Aldridge or Gasol change teams, they will almost certainly take a 2+1 deal because then they qualify for Early Bird rights if they opt out after 2 years which means they can be resigned for as much as 175% of their previous salary for up to 4 years and 7.5% rises.
    Still 4.5-percent raises. The 7.5 is full-Bird only.

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    Still 4.5-percent raises. The 7.5 is full-Bird only.
    CBA FAQ says Early Bird allows for 7.5% rises

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    There's also the very good chance that Tim just straight plays two more years. I see no reason why he can't. If I were the Spurs, I'd just guarantee all of it, seeing as that would be the best way to encourage him to stay on both years. That being said, it's almost pointless for Duncan to take so little. Duncan at $6 Million minus Splitter's $8 Million still leaves the Spurs with less than max cap space. Maybe they do plan on letting Green go and just rolling with Tony, Kawhi, Tim, Boris and LMA. But that seems like a terrible use of assets. May as well stay over the cap, especially if Manu returns. If they're over the cap, then there's no need to have Tim take less -- or to defer money to 2016.
    I appreciate your understanding of these salary issues. Are you suggesting they might be considering letting Green go to make room for LMA? Would they be more likely to let Splitter or Boris go? As much as I like LMA, I'd hate to lose too many valuable assets in the process.

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    I appreciate your understanding of these salary issues. Are you suggesting they might be considering letting Green go to make room for LMA? Would they be more likely to let Splitter or Boris go? As much as I like LMA, I'd hate to lose too many valuable assets in the process.
    If they really do want Manu back at all costs, then they are probably willing to let go of Green. I think they'll be more inclined to move Splitter than Diaw, even though Tiago is a better fit with those two and long term. Boris is the nicer trade asset after this coming season, though. In 2017, he's pretty much Dampier 3.0.

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    CBA FAQ says Early Bird allows for 7.5% rises
    You're correct. Dunno why I forgot that.

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    So, if I understand correctly, if the Spurs want to acquire LMA it also comes down to choosing between Manu and Green? Or is it still possible to retain both Manu and Green?

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    So, if I understand correctly, if the Spurs want to acquire LMA it also comes down to choosing between Manu and Green? Or is it still possible to retain both Manu and Green?
    It depends on salary. If Manu insists on taking $7 Million again, and Tim takes $10 Million, then the Spurs aren't getting LMA without losing BOTH Danny and Tiago. If they both took the minimum, then they could keep all four while getting Aldridge (though they'd have to move Mills or have LMA take the $16ish Million they'd have in cap space).

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    Can retain both, just makes it more difficult.

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    We can go over the cap right?

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    I'm certain if the spurs want to win next season peter holt won't mind paying tax.

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    Duncan and Parker should trade salaries on that list - then it'd be reasonable. Maybe if we fans see it as Duncan giving up his salary for Parker's, we wouldn't be so dissatisfied.
    Parker would still be overpaid.

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    Hopefully there will be more credible sources coming out soon. I would be really shocked if we don't hear a formal announcement before the draft.

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    So, if I understand correctly, if the Spurs want to acquire LMA it also comes down to choosing between Manu and Green? Or is it still possible to retain both Manu and Green?
    Chinook is right it's about salary. Assuming this report of Timmy taking $6m is correct, then I think offering Manu a reasonable $2.8m this year and a 50% guaranteed $3m next year with the Room Exception. That way if both of them retire after this coming season, they effectively played this year for $10m and $4.3m respectively, and Manu would have no impact on our cap situation since he's being signed using an exception.

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    If they really do want Manu back at all costs, then they are probably willing to let go of Green. I think they'll be more inclined to move Splitter than Diaw, even though Tiago is a better fit with those two and long term. Boris is the nicer trade asset after this coming season, though. In 2017, he's pretty much Dampier 3.0.
    Thank you. Very interesting. Agree about Tiago being a better fit long term, but more likely to be moved.

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    I'm certain if the spurs want to win next season peter holt won't mind paying tax.
    I would hope that if Holt were willing to pay the tax for Richard Jefferson, he would do so for Aldridge.

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    I'm certain if the spurs want to win next season peter holt won't mind paying tax.
    I would be amazed if any owner refused to pay the tax over the next 2 years considering future cap projections.

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    If they really do want Manu back at all costs, then they are probably willing to let go of Green. I think they'll be more inclined to move Splitter than Diaw, even though Tiago is a better fit with those two and long term. Boris is the nicer trade asset after this coming season, though. In 2017, he's pretty much Dampier 3.0.
    Of course they want Ginobili back at all costs, but they know how valuable Green is, that it would be nearly impossible to replace him and that they need to go all in. Doing so would also help with wooing Aldridge. If him signing means creating a gaping hole elsewhere, I'd imagine he'd be less inclined to sign, because even with him, they'd still need to be a sum of their parts type team to win it all.

    No matter how difficult/expensive it would be to have a top eight of Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard, Green, Parker, Ginobili, Diaw, Mills, you've said yourself that it's doable.

    In regards to the report, I predicted they'd do this with Duncan and Ginobili, so suffice it to say, I'm not the least bit surprised.

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    bye tiago… finally

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    If this is the case why couldn't SA pursue Milsap and keep everyone? If you have to be "wooed" or "swayed" into coming to play, then you really don't have the mentality of the Spurs anyway, correct? The Spurs are about winning, playing the right way, and behaving the right way. Make a big-boy choice of where you want to play, sign the paperwork, stay off the damn social media, and get to work. Sad SAS fans have had it so good, now we have to deal with the prima donna bull . I know no-one can sign until 7/8 but I'm throwing it out there, I don't want any indecisiveness from whoever SAS get

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    Thanks Chinook DPG21920 and Richie.

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    If this is the case why couldn't SA pursue Milsap and keep everyone? If you have to be "wooed" or "swayed" into coming to play, then you really don't have the mentality of the Spurs anyway, correct? The Spurs are about winning, playing the right way, and behaving the right way. Make a big-boy choice of where you want to play, sign the paperwork, stay off the damn social media, and get to work. Sad SAS fans have had it so good, now we have to deal with the prima donna bull . I know no-one can sign until 7/8 but I'm throwing it out there, I don't want any indecisiveness from whoever SAS get
    Because Millsap, while a very good player, is undersized, over 30 and looking at his last big payday contract of something in the neighborhood of $13-15 mil per year. No thanks, I would rather not sign any "major" FA's and have a ton of cap space to work with next year, than sign someone just o use cap space this summer.

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    All these numbers make my head hurt. Will be interesting to see what happens. I'm glad i'm not in the front office or the dude paying the bills!

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