White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

[TheSanityAnnex]

You might want to take a look at the hostages from countries that allow such negotiations.

I'm sure you haven't

And are you also claiming US families didn't negotiate because of US laws?

[admiralsnackbar]

are you being purposely obtuse?

One could say the same of your position if one wanted to sound like a , I guess.

[Winehole23]

A government standing on principle to forgo the chance to save the lives of its own citizens is a dereliction of duty, period.

[boutons_deux]

A government standing on principle to forgo the chance to save the lives of its own citizens is a dereliction of duty, period.

a govt being shaken down for $100Ms by terrorists is a sucker, encouraging never-ending hostage-taking.

Doesn't help that Imperial Corporatist -Measuring War-is-Our-Business-Plan USA is the biggest war monger, country-breaker on the planet. That could cause some pushback in the form of hostage taking.

It's tough situation.

I hear there are about 30 American hostages being held around the world now.

[spurraider21]

A government standing on principle to forgo the chance to save the lives of its own citizens is a dereliction of duty, period.

A chance to save some citizens while increasing the risk of danger to more citizens

[ChumpDumper]

a govt being shaken down for $100Ms by terrorists is a sucker, encouraging never-ending hostage-taking.

The government isn't paying ransoms.

Do you read anything but your own RSS feed?

[boutons_deux]

The government isn't paying ransoms.

Do you read anything but your own RSS feed?

have you GFY today? I answering to "A government standing on principle to forgo the chance to save the lives of its own citizens is a dereliction of duty, period.", NOT to the new USA hostage policy.

[ChumpDumper]

A chance to save some citizens while increasing the risk of danger to more citizens

How much is a family member's life worth to you?

[ChumpDumper]

have you GFY today? I answering to "A government standing on principle to forgo the chance to save the lives of its own citizens is a dereliction of duty, period.", NOT to the new USA hostage policy.

So you're not talking about any actual US policy and just ranting about nothing.

OK.

[spurraider21]

How much is a family member's life worth to you?

a lot. if my own family were involved, i'd have a more emotional response to it. that's not the duty of the government.

[ChumpDumper]

a lot. if my own family were involved, i'd have a more emotional response to it. that's not the duty of the government.

So you'd be fine if you were forbidden to do anything to save the life of your family member because of a government policy?

[spurraider21]

So you'd be fine if you were forbidden to do anything to save the life of your family member because of a government policy?

there are a lot of things i wouldn't be fine with. if my family were falsely imprisoned and ordered to 30 years of hard labor in north korea, i'd be upset that the US isn't doing anything to help that situation either.

it's not the duty of the government to pander to the emotions of individuals. sometimes difficult decisions need to be made for the general welfare

[ChumpDumper]

there are a lot of things i wouldn't be fine with. if my family were falsely imprisoned and ordered to 30 years of hard labor in north korea, i'd be upset that the US isn't doing anything to help that situation either.

it's not the duty of the government to pander to the emotions of individuals. sometimes difficult decisions need to be made for the general welfare

So you'd be fine if you were forbidden to do anything to save the life of your family member because of a government policy?

[spurraider21]

So you'd be fine if you were forbidden to do anything to save the life of your family member because of a government policy?

i answered that question already

[Th'Pusher]

a lot. if my own family were involved, i'd have a more emotional response to it. that's not the duty of the government.

Is it the duty of the government to lawfully preclude an individual from negotiating the release of another citizen?

[ChumpDumper]

i answered that question already

No, you didn't.

So you'd be fine if you were forbidden to do anything to save the life of your family member because of a government policy?

[spurraider21]

No, you didn't.

So you'd be fine if you were forbidden to do anything to save the life of your family member because of a government policy?

i've answered the question already. feel free to go back through my responses, and read them carefully.

[ChumpDumper]

i've answered the question already. feel free to go back through my responses, and read them carefully.

No, you didn't.

So you'd be fine if you were forbidden to do anything to save the life of your family member because of a government policy?

[TheSanityAnnex]

It appears you have. I would be interested in seeing successful hostage ransoms paid to those held hostage by Middle Easterners.

paging chump

[ChumpDumper]

paging chump

No money reportedly changed hands in the recent cases that made headlines. The governments of the U.S. and the U.K. say they refuse to pay ransom for their citizens, but other governments, private companies and individuals have turned over millions to terrorist organizations like al Qaeda and ISIS, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

Security officials told ABC News that prior to the execution of journalist James Foley, several other European hostages had been released by ISIS – but only after the terror group received a reported $2 million to $3 million for each. According to public remarks by U.S. Treasury officials, at least $165 million in ransom has been funneled to terrorist organizations since 2008.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fullpa...eedom-25114240

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fullpa...eedom-25114240

Appreciate the artice. Still doesn't look like it is anywhere close to the 0% you claimed.

[ChumpDumper]

Appreciate the artice. Still doesn't look like it is anywhere close to the 0% you claimed.

I said close to zero.

I'll wait for you to produce deaths of hostages from said countries now.

[Blake]

i've answered the question already. feel free to go back through my responses, and read them carefully.

I can't find it. Was it a yes or no?

My answer is no.

[boutons_deux]

St Ronnie paid ransom money for hostages

Forgetting Reagan’s Worst Scandal

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/2...worst-scandal/

Useful Idiot St Ronnie and his accomplices, another really nasty bunch of assholes