Zach Lowe take in Grantland : "Ginobili is on his last legs, but if he has anything left, he should tear up opposing defenses running the pick-and-roll amid pristine spacing.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-free-agency-winners-and-losers/
Yeah, the ugly turnovers; the clanked FTs and suspect defense were all on display throughout , but I really think he wasn't that bad last year, especially at the start of the season,. I just felt like he got run down to the ground in that brutal December (14 games, 15pts/6ass/4reb in 27.4 mpg) and never seemed to recover from it..Timmy had a similar lull the following few months but managed to pick it up again down the stretch and in the playoffs..Manu, OTOH, caught an untimely ankle injury toward the end and entered the post-season in a not optimal condition..
Make no mistake, he is not probably going to replicate his 2014 PO form, but too much corporate knowledge would have been lost in our second unit..I think we can get a mini-resurgence out of him in a 18-20 minutes play-making role..
"they just replaced Splitter with an All-Star who can defend almost as well"
stopped reading there
we have gotten worse, and people can't realize it.. belinelli and splitter were in their primes, now we have a ball hogger in the wrong side of 30 who can't defend , plus the corpse of david west who defends worse than blair
plus they aren't system players
same thing he did this year and we should have #6
You think Gino was more of a liability than Tony in both reg season/PO?
Quietly, he was one of the most steady Spurs last playoffs... posting slightly above average numbers.
His role is to orchestrate the offense in the 2nd unit. Anybody expecting him to be a difference maker, SuperManu or bailing out Tony on the regular is up for disappointment, tbh...
Was about to say something nice, but then saw that jab at the end. MF..
Few forget wasn't it for the Gino-Mills 1/2 punch , the Clippers would have blown us out in couple of games we won in LA after our starters shat the bed against theirs early on.
gino hit timely shots in the series, parker missed themYou think Gino was more of a liability than Tony in both reg season/PO?
Anything over 1 TO per 15 mins and he needs to be dumped on the spot IMO
starters with lma will be better this year
LOL Splitter in his prime but he is older than LA and was often injured. LA is 29 years old right now and Splitter is older, did you think before you wrote that? Splitter hardly ever played as well so what good did he do? I agree LA is no a defender but his game is so much better than Splitters it's not even funny, the thing is though how will he fit in? That is the key. On paper he is way better.
Are they system players? Time will tell. BTW Belli could shoot some but he was a flat out horrible defender too so if you diss the others for defense atleast add that in as well.
What's the jab, tbh? Gino had to step up to cover for Tony being hurt all season, including during that killer December. He can't do that on the regular anymore.
Leadership.
And the 3 ball with an occasional contusion after a probe to the basket.
Glad he is back.
Actually it was by far his worst playoffs and he shot .349% from the field and got 8 PPG, that is not above average numbers. He was bad to be honest sides a game or two, Tim and Patty (Beli too) were the only steady ones in the series tbh and Kawhi the first 4 and a half games.
I am a Manu fan too no doubt but your statement is incorrect above.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ginobma01.htmlYep, this is what I hope for from Manu.
Oh, yea, when he was hurt. Never mind carry on
His shooting and free throws aren't what they used to be, but he still the best passer on the team, and the best play maker on the second unit. (Though Boris certainly has his moments). There is nothing close to his skill level and leadership we're going to get elsewhere for 2.8 mill.
Also, and perhaps just as importantly, by being our 2 guard who effectively plays point, it allows us to use Patty as a tiny shooting guard. Patty would be much more of a liability with anyone else.
December murders' row schedule without Tony/Patty and that ankle twist vs Minnesota ruined an already diminished and steep-declining Ginobili..Hopefully he doesn't get burdened that much this time around..I think Pop will strictly babysit his minutes with plenty of DNP Rests on the card..
Nothing incorrect with my statement. I tracked that entire series:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247098
16.9 PER is above average (league average is 15). He hovered around 17 throughout the series (one of the very few that was steady). Kawhi started with a bang then dropped. Boris started sucking, then picked it up.
Why do you have to be so emo all the time?
After 3 months of rest I expect him to play like šPrime Manuš circa june 2005.
So his 34.9 % snd 8 ppg is now above average?? Dont give me that per stuff I watched every game too and he like others in the series was off most of the time NONO. I know your a fan and all but no denying that.
Our most consistent in the series by far was Tim, then Patty as well as Beli. Kawhi the first 4 games on fire and then dove.
Small sample, tbh, he only took 43 shots for the entire series (that ranked him as option #6 on the team). He lead the team in assists with 32. He wasn't even the guy with the most turnovers in that series.
His numbers indicate he was an above average NBA player in that series, and that's what you should expect from Gino: decent defense and a playmaker looking to dish much more than to score. That is his role now.
He isn't going to be better than his young self. The question at this age for him is if his production is still above league average, and it is.
I mean, comparing anybody with Tim is unfair. He's a freak of nature. But take Andre Miller, or even Kobe at this stage...
That Gino is still producing at a high level out there is crazy. This is a guy that most pundits thought that he was going to be out of the league by 32, with the way he punished his body.
he will be the same as last year; a little more dependent on the three ball than the drive, but not afraid to attack or take a big shot, and will have some bad turnovers, but great assists.
What he will give up with age, he will more than make up for in momentum shifting plays. He's great.
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