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    It's not enough to wet the bed. Sign the new Richard Jefferson, and don't worry about the cap pressure. The real beauty is the following stages of bed wettery.

    Ignore the cold shivers. Green, Timmy, Manu there's some wiggle room there.

    Induce a nightmarish dream. Why would you want a return on investment? Splitter and Joseph can practically just go.

    Then there's what you hope is the final stage. Give up and hide the wet linen, this is the faux encore. The icing on the cake moves. Bring in Bobarian. Take a look at Copeland, pretend you couldn't send Beli and Baynes away before the deadline. Send LJC back to France. Admit summer league is just a show for Anderson and Simmons, nobody else ever had a real shot. And of course re-sign Matt Bonner. Real solid stuff.

    Then there's the encore... the moment we have asked for and shall recieve... mom and dad finding out... the tragic playoff bounce! perhaps in conference finals to Golden State, to be fair the Spurs did a pretty good job making the bed look normal. Ah, but the stench of dry piss is too strong! If mom and dad didn't smell it, they surely noticed the Spurs sheet-less bed rash. I'm holding out hope for a truly unexpected surprise, last years Clippers is too easy. The Spurs are better than that, what i'm imagining is something incredible. a first round exit to the 7 seed timberwolves, a truly triumphant moment for KG. He can go on to be the coach of a new, much less Bonnery/bed wettery small town dynasty. or an uglier small town dynasty story. A second round exit to the breath of fresh air Billy Donovan Thunder. All that depth, and even a touch a Spursy flavor like Collisons ridiculous longevity and the totally unfathomable presence of Novak. Money on the thunder, but God i hope KG is hungry.
    Do you actively try to make no sense whatsoever?

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    He's a big who can bang and eat up fouls. It's not as much a necessity in today's NBA; but there's always gonna be some value in that. Frankly, I'd rather have that than a repeat performance from Williams. If you stick with Williams, you're banking on the guy continuing to progress.
    we don't need 7 bigs.

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    Bad take. Just because he "should be shooting 55%" according to you "to be effective" because that's all he does, doesn't mean that's any sort of reality. All he has to be is good enough for defenders to honor the shot and defend him. 37%, his second worst percentage, is still good enough to force defenders to have to honor it. That 37%, not even his 40-41% usual pace, is still 2 percentage points higher than Aldridge's career number at 35%, I believe. And, it's not a safe assumption that he will stay at 37%, or lower. He may bounce back toward the mean, or, gasp, even overshoot it at 45-50% in order to maintain that mean. That sometimes happens. That's how means work. But, even at 37%, he would be the best 3-point shooting big on the team. NOT redundant as some have said.

    He has some limited defensive ability, is a great guy for corporate knowledge reasons, as many have said. And, his little pump fake drive and jump hook in the lane isn't exactly inefficient. I think he hits that at a pretty decent clip.

    Plenty of worse guys we could have for the minimum. Ayres and Copeland are probably two of them. I was not looking forward to Copeland from what Little I know of him.

    Shooting 37% from 3 is the equivalent of shooting 55.5% from inside the arc. Still very respectable, and requiring guarding.
    Bad take. We didn't bring Aldridge here to shoot threes, so not understanding your point. If you feel an unathletic, extremely one dimensional three point "specialist" who shoots less than 40% is a good signing, then you're en led to that opinion.

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    Do you actively try to make no sense whatsoever?
    i can't make this stuff up man, it writes itself.

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    Well, then there's no need to sign Lalanne 'til they're sure there's a spot for him; and they'll keep his rights for the time being.
    It's not their decision. They HAVE to offer LaLanne a contract to keep his rights, and Cady has to refuse it. If he accepts he goes to camp, and if they cut him, no one owns his rights.

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    Doesn't this signing potentially stunt the growth of some of the other young up and comers we have that could've benefited from being in the roster and learning the system directly from Pop and practicing with the rest of the team?
    Like who? Duncan, Aldridge, West and Diaw are all seasoned vets. The only up-and-comer among our posts might be Marjanovic. But hes hardly a typical rookie with plenty of professional experience at the highest level outside of the NBA.

    Among the international draft and stash player there might be one or two honestly. Mulitinov, Jean-Charles and Lalanne are all possible post players that might have benefited from that last roster spot. But having seen two of them up close during SL they're quite clearly not ready for the NBA and wouldn't be end-of-the-bench options in a win-now Spurs culture. I imagine their opinion of Mulitinov is probably similar to that of LJC right now - they just need more seasoning abroad.

    And don't we have enough players that can space the floor, thus making Bonner redundant?
    The team is actually rather short on pure 3 point shooters. This is especially true among the posts as neither Aldridge nor West is an accomplished distance shooter, and Diaw's 3 point shot is very hot and cold. And don't expect Duncan nor Marjanovic to be jacking those up either.

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    Called it. Matty was always coming back. And I'm glad he is. As 6th big he does no harm, and any PT he recieves he'll know exactly where to be. He will also serve as another coach to all the new faces.

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    Bonner gonna teach Boban all his moves.

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    A game, 2 years ago, where he scored 6 points should not be a reason why he's still taking up a roster spot. He shot 37% from deep last year and chances are greater that he'll be even worse from there a year older.

    Btw... the real Ibaka killer that game was

    That was AN example. In the playoffs. Those percentages are all year and career long. You may not want to acknowledge the other games, but they exist.

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    Bonner gonna teach Boban all his moves.
    When you get the ball and someone is within 6 feet pass the ball. If you absolutely must shoot aim for the back iron they make a special thunk sound when you miss. Occasionally when we are winning by 15 you can hit a wide open shot.

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    I knew it !
    Maybe, just maybe, for TWO REA$ONS :
    1. He's needed as locker-room fixture. or;
    2. Nobody wants to be exposed to the media interviews except him, he's a perfect fit.

    Frankly, I don't give a .....
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    I got it! I figured it out.

    Say that bringing Duncan and Ginobili back for another year doesn't work out... and signing Aldridge and West doesn't work out... and the max deal with Kawhi doesn't work out... and resigning Green doesn't work out... and Anderson doesn't work out... and letting go of Splitter, Baynes, Beli, and CoJo doesn't work out... and signing Boban, and McCallum, and Simmons doesn't work out...

    Bonner is Plan B!!!

    You always have to have a plan B. Pop and RC are geniuses.

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    That was AN example. In the playoffs. Those percentages are all year and career long. You may not want to acknowledge the other games, but they exist.
    A game where he scored 6 points is his biggest playoff contribution in 9 years. He's living off reputation now.

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    When you get the ball and someone is within 6 feet pass the ball. If you absolutely must shoot aim for the back iron they make a special thunk sound when you miss. Occasionally when we are winning by 15 you can hit a wide open shot.

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    Bonner is to the Spurs what Keith Richards is to rock 'n roll. We need to leave this world a better place for Keith Richards and the Red Rocket!

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    we're too stacked to care about the 5th/6th big, tbh...

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    Whether Anderson looks like a rotation player or not is only half of the equation; the other half is, does he look like one who fits alongside Ginobili? The answer is still a resounding no.

    They clearly need a pure shooter. For all the talk about the amount of shooting in the big rotation, the only knockdown three-point shooters on the roster, are Green, Mills and Bonner (who's basically irrelevant, as the sixth big).

    Even though he basically plays SG on offense, Mills can't defend the position, so he doesn't count as an SG option.
    Agree with this to an extent.

    However, its reasonable to believe Manu's play-making responsibilities/usage rate will decline to a degree. In this case, I think Kyle could work w/ Manu on 2nd team if Manu plays a little bit more off the ball here and there -- while Kyle is the player working the high PnR in the second unit ( this is if Kyle earn more minutes/responsibility from now til then). Think this idea could preserve Manu's energy and make him more efficient whenever he does run the offense for the 2nd unit. Also it could help him get through the 7-8 month season without as much wear and tear on his tires.

    Side note: It's reasonable to assume Green's workload and minutes will increase this year. Spurs want him to grow even more. For that reason and others, I'm not too worried about rushing to add a wing to the 15th spot right now. That guy will be irrelevant for the most part unless the team gets hit hard with injuries but even then, they have Simmons and Anderson already in line to eat minutes when players need rest or recovery time.

    In close/compe ive games and playoffs, I can see Pop going w/ a 3 wing rotation with Leonard/Green seeing heavy minutes with Manu getting his 20-22 mpg and the winner of the Simmons/Anderson compe ion will only be included if an injury happens or if Leonard or Green gets in foul trouble. Then again, there's a scenario where Kyle or Simmons exceed expectations and produce to the point where Pop has to find minutes for him -- which would just be icing on the cake. IMO

    Spurs are fine at the wing as is -- if you want to give Green the room (minutes) to grow even more. IMO

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    Bad take. We didn't bring Aldridge here to shoot threes, so not understanding your point. If you feel an unathletic, extremely one dimensional three point "specialist" who shoots less than 40% is a good signing, then you're en led to that opinion.
    No one, including myself, said we brough LA here to shoot 3's. That doesn't negate the fact that he does. It also doesn't negate the fact that some said Bonner was redundant. The fact that even at his worst, he shoots the 3 better than the next best 3-shooting big. Lastly, I said we could do worse. I am sure they took all things into consideration when they resigned him. I'm ok with it. He has value. Yes. He is a specialist, which makes him not redundant, and potentially useful, in that special situation. BillMc's example being a good EXAMPLE.

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    Here's the Bonner story on spurs dot com:

    http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-re-sign-matt-bonner

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    Bonner is the only spur that is willing to help pop with his hemeroids on the road

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    Yeah I expect a lot of DNP nights for Bonner and for him to take on the Juwan Howard bench role. The team is too good in the frontcourt for Marty to be in the rotation.

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    I still have no idea why people are upset at signing Bonner as our 6th big. Seriously...6th.

    If you want a veteran player with knowledge of the system and a useful skillset on the cheap then I don't know who would be a better signing. Consider this was probably a two-horse race between him and Errors. Would we prefer a return to the Pendergraph Era?

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    Bonner is still an asset off the bench as a 6th big. He's hardly ever going to play, but he'll come in handy against bad teams when we rest Timmy and Tony and those guys.

    Plus he's still the human victory cigar

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    if he starts at PG that'll be an improvement for us.

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    A game where he scored 6 points is his biggest playoff contribution in 9 years. He's living off reputation now.
    If it benefits us, I don't care. And, the reputation is deserved. The percentages speak for themselves.

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