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    He stills seems to have a pause before he releases the ball. Hope PATFO fixes that quirk!
    Yeah, what's up with that? His release looks broken. It's really not a wonder why he can't get his shot off in the pros like he could in college.
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    Need to consider that Manu needs to get some reps playing with the new guys. He needs to get down the right timing, strengths of the receiving players and where/when best to place the ball. Manu is one of the main playmakers and it could be disastrous if he doesn't have a feel of what Aldridge or West is going to do.
    The year Manu helped save the Spurs in the 1st round against the Mavs, Manu missed 14 games and the year before in missed 22 games.

    Manu tops, should only be playing 60 games this season, healthy or not. Spurs need him at his best for the playoffs.
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    Yeah, what's up with that? His release looks broken. It's really not a wonder why he can't get his shot off in the pros like he could in college.
    He pulls the ball down to his chest before shooting. Kawhi, Anderson both had the same problem coming out of college. Both noticeably have corrected this. I think Chip will improve this as well. Jimmer couldn't go to a more perfect organization to improve his skill set.
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    https://twitter.com/danmccarneySAEN/...10409416171521


    Pretty good summary that kind of reiterates things discussed here.
    1. Jimmer sharing the same agent as David West played a role in getting the contact
    2. Probably a long shot
    3. Probably his last shot at the NBA had very little intest from other teams
    I don't think he is a long shot. I think this the Spurs newest project player. Look at Baynes when the Spurs first brought him. He was raw and many here said he wasn't an NBA Caliber player. After a couple year of development, Baynes is more than a capable backup center in this league.

    I think Jimmer will do quite well with Becky's tutelage on passing, Chip's on shooting, and Pop just make him more mentally tough. I expect him to actually do a few weeks in the D league to learn the Spurs system. Jimmer has potential, and the Spurs are the best at maximizing players potential.
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    I'm a fan of Jimmer, and borderline homer, but he is a long shot to make the team. He is duplicative of Patty Mills at best, and he doesn't have the speed that Patty Mills has. His agent getting him a deal does not bode well for his chances. Spurs will always take a flyer on a shooter and a guy that was taken in the lottery, but no matter how great some guys are at basketball, there sometimes aren't enough jobs in the NBA. I assume he'll have moments and we'll get to see him in a few preseason games, and then I think he will move on to Europe, where he will score a ton of points and probably be a better fit. He's got the right skill set, but the NBA is a speed game, and if you can't adjust to that, you can't make it there.
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    I don't think he is a long shot. I think this the Spurs newest project player. Look at Baynes when the Spurs first brought him. He was raw and many here said he wasn't an NBA Caliber player. After a couple year of development, Baynes is more than a capable backup center in this league.

    I think Jimmer will do quite well with Becky's tutelage on passing, Chip's on shooting, and Pop just make him more mentally tough. I expect him to actually do a few weeks in the D league to learn the Spurs system. Jimmer has potential, and the Spurs are the best at maximizing players potential.
    The knock on Jimmer is that he had reached the peak of his game back in college.

    But, I can't think of him as the kind of player that is raw and needs a lot of reps and tutelage. He just has to refine his game so it is more effective and efficient for the NBA game.

    Mills thrives because he's given the green light. However, the thing about Mills is that he doesn't dribble the ball forever like we see Tony Parker and Jimmer do. He makes his move and if he isn't open, then he passes it, no ball hogging.

    What I want to see Jimmer do is similar to what J.J. Re has done.

    (1) Release the ball faster, Jimmer has a tendency to the basketball before firing. You see it in a majority of his shots, there is a slight pause before he fires. Curry does it right, you don't need to release it at the peak of your jump, you just want to release if very quickly.
    (2) Use the screens and fire the ball coming quickly off the screens. Red has mastered the shot where he's actually firing away with his body moving horizontally.

    I trust PATFO on this, if they release him, then they know that his game is not salvageable.
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    It wouldn't make much sense for Jimmer to start something up after an 18 point loss on the road. That was Kawhi. There's gifs on it too. But yes, Jimmer didn't take it too personal. He invited Kawhi to headline at his Jimmer's All-Stars before their rookie year. Run of the mill players made $10K. I'm assuming Kawhi made even more. So, Kawhi was able to line his pocket up front before the real NBA money came in thanks to Jimmer.

    But my point is I'd love to see Jimmer embrace talking. It may go against his moral code though.
    Kawhi isnt exactly known or being a trash talker actually quite the opposite so something must have triggered it. Like I said, there's different stories about what actually happened and what was said, saying kawhi started it is just mere assumption gifs dont tell the whole story. They obviously have moved passed it though. "I'm assuming Kawhi made even more. So, Kawhi was able to line his pocket up front before the real NBA money came in thanks to Jimmer." Again just assuming.
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    Yeah, what's up with that? His release looks broken. It's really not a wonder why he can't get his shot off in the pros like he could in college.
    He has the same shooting motion as Bonner only quicker & jumps higher. Him shooting 3s off the dribble is the equivalent of Bonner shooting spot up 3s w/ Gobert running at him. He would basically be a spot up shooter ala Bonner if he ever became a rotation player thus Steve Kerr 2.0 if he ever sticks w/ the team.
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    He has the same shooting motion as Bonner only quicker & jumps higher. Him shooting 3s off the dribble is the equivalent of Bonner shooting spot up 3s w/ Gobert running at him. He would basically be a spot up shooter ala Bonner if he ever became a rotation player thus Steve Kerr 2.0 if he ever sticks w/ the team.
    Bonner is a big, which both means he's taller (so higher release point) and that he's more likely to have a slower man closing out on him (longer window to shoot). Also, no, Bonner doesn't hitch when he shoots. Jimmer's motion is significantly more broken than Bonners.
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    Bonner is a big, which both means he's taller (so higher release point) and that he's more likely to have a slower man closing out on him (longer window to shoot). Also, no, Bonner doesn't hitch when he shoots. Jimmer's motion is significantly more broken than Bonners.
    I don't think it's the same shooting motion as Bonner's. But definitely there's a hitch, which he absolutely has to get rid off. Jimmer takes the shot at the top of his jump which leads to requiring more strength and also a slower release.

    Clip is unsure if he can fix it, that's why the gave him an unguaranteed contract.

    The question is whether it is easier to fix Jimmer's shot or to fix Eddie's defensive at ude. Let's see what camp leads to.
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    He shot .188 from behind the arc last season, though at least he's a career .381
    Yeah but year before that, 48% 3pt%. Also 47% FG% and 91% from FT line, average between two teams.

    Could be a case of not fitting in well with his last team. Possibly wishful thinking though.
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    Yeah but year before that, 48% 3pt%. Also 47% FG% and 91% from FT line, average between two teams.

    Could be a case of not fitting in well with his last team. Possibly wishful thinking though.
    In camp, he'll have SGs defending him like Green and Simmons. If he can get his shot off against these guys, then he makes the team. If he doesn't then his career is practically over. Odds are pretty slim.
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    Over analyzing Jimmer's shot now.
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    Over analyzing Jimmer's shot now.
    I wouldn't say that we're putting too much emphasis on it, though, because that's his calling card, and it simply hasn't been good enough so far.
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    I wouldn't say that we're putting too much emphasis on it, though, because that's his calling card, and it simply hasn't been good enough so far.
    I agree. Given his height, if he can't let it fly quickly enough.

    I want him to start shooting like Stephan Curry (the Gold Standard).
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    Jimmer actually killed Kawhi in the matchup

    killing kawai? hahaha. ferdette was another overrated ass white dude that was never gonna be in the nba.
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    I trust PATFO on this, if they release him, then they know that his game is not salvageable.
    Not necessarily. THey did release Danny once.
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    First post! Jimmer needs to make the team! I'd love for him to get the last spot
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    Didn't Austin Daye have to put on his jersey after the game?
    Yea, that's what would have had to have happened.
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    Kawhi isnt exactly known or being a trash talker actually quite the opposite so something must have triggered it. Like I said, there's different stories about what actually happened and what was said, saying kawhi started it is just mere assumption gifs dont tell the whole story. They obviously have moved passed it though. "I'm assuming Kawhi made even more. So, Kawhi was able to line his pocket up front before the real NBA money came in thanks to Jimmer." Again just assuming.
    A pretty safe assumption though. Headliners almost always make more than also-rans.
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    Yeah but year before that, 48% 3pt%. Also 47% FG% and 91% from FT line, average between two teams.

    Could be a case of not fitting in well with his last team. Possibly wishful thinking though.
    Outside of AD's brilliance, the Pelicans were an absolute mess last year offensively. Being in The System and getting fed open looks from the likes of Manu, Diaw, and West should bring his percentage back up to his career average...and will hopefully hide his reported defensive deficiencies as well.
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    I swear...some of you ing morons really need to just, I dunno...die?

    It's a guy who might or might not make the team. Some of you hanging on Summer league and D League over-hypes are just stupid. "Oh man, they smashed it against weak compe ion, they are so ready for the big show." But reverse the rhetoric to down another player?? Idiots.
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    I swear...some of you ing morons really need to just, I dunno...die?

    It's a guy who might or might not make the team. Some of you hanging on Summer league and D League over-hypes are just stupid. "Oh man, they smashed it against weak compe ion, they are so ready for the big show." But reverse the rhetoric to down another player?? Idiots.
    You tell 'em, Mr... Guy.
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