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    I'll do it right after you go back to Europe.
    It's not the same thing, this was nothing before we built it. If we all went back to Europe this place would look just like Mexico.

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    You're breaking the ing law. Go back to Mexico. Either fix that heap, or, get in line here.

    Get out.
    Nope. Not as long as your big businesses keep giving me jobs. Not as long as your government turns a blind eye to said law.

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    Yeah, they are. They broke & entered, committing a criminal offense.
    Actually, legally speaking, illegally crossing the border is not a criminal offense, it's a civil offense. A misdemeanor. At least the first time. (US Code le 8 Section 1325)

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    Nope. Not as long as your big businesses keep giving me jobs. Not as long as your government turns a blind eye to said law.
    Exactly, you're a criminal, a leech.

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    Actually, legally speaking, illegally crossing the border is not a criminal offense, it's a civil offense. A misdemeanor. At least the first time. (US Code le 8 Section 1325)
    Horse . It's a criminal offense, Peedro.

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    Actually, legally speaking, illegally crossing the border is not a criminal offense, it's a civil offense. A misdemeanor. At least the first time. (US Code le 8 Section 1325)
    Stop that, nono. Argentinians are comrades.

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    It's not the same thing, this was nothing before we built it. If we all went back to Europe this place would look just like Mexico.
    None of that changes the fact that you came into a country that wasn't yours.

    Exactly, you're a criminal, a leech.
    Nope. I work my ass for every paycheck. I do the work you and your fellow American slobs are too lazy to do.

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    Horse . It's a criminal offense, Peedro.
    That's the law. Call your politico and let him know how you feel about it.

    FWIW, as a legal immigrant, I despise illegal immigration. Anybody that has gone through the entire legal process knows how much time, stress and money it takes to do things right. It's bull that Feliciano skips the line.

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    Stop that, nono. Argentinians are comrades.
    Well, I think the law needs adjusting. People really don't even know the laws are so lax.

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    None of that changes the fact that you came into a country that wasn't yours.



    Nope. I work my ass for every paycheck. I do the work you and your fellow American slobs are too lazy to do.
    Makes no difference how you explain it you're breaking the law. You're a leech.

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    Stop that, nono. Argentinians are comrades.
    Argentinians would cross illegally too if they shared a border with the US of Gay. I don't think they're a thriving country either, Nono is one of the few exceptions.

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    There's a bunch of illegal Argies, especially in Miami. It's nowhere near comparable in amount to Mexicans, but they should be deported all the same.

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    That's the law. Call your politico and let him know how you feel about it.

    FWIW, as a legal immigrant, I despise illegal immigration. Anybody that has gone through the entire legal process knows how much time, stress and money it takes to do things right. It's bull that Feliciano skips the line.
    You wouldn't have gotten the chance to do the entire legal process if you weren't an educated man. My guess is you had a decent life even before immigrating.

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    Makes no difference how you explain it you're breaking the law. You're a leech.
    A leech that works harder than you and your fellow American slobs do. A leech that your big businesses and government love.

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    None of that changes the fact that you came into a country that wasn't yours.



    Nope. I work my ass for every paycheck. I do the work you and your fellow American slobs are too lazy to do.
    It wasn't anyone's, it wasn't a country. There was no law or concept of property rights. We built it, now it's ours, and you did nothing to earn it. Without rule of law and yes that includes immigration law then we end up just like Mexico.

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    Argentinians would cross illegally too if they shared a border with the US of Gay. I don't think they're a thriving country either, Nono is one of the few exceptions.
    Fun fact: at one pint in time Argentina was one of the most prosperous countries in the world. That's a topic for another time.

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    A leech that works harder than you and your fellow American slobs do. A leech that your big businesses and government love.
    No dude be honest that's not true. The typical corporate job demands 50-60 hours these days it's putting people in an early grave. Corporations don't tolerate laziness you either produce or you get ed. That's everyone including U.S. Citizens.

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    You wouldn't have gotten the chance to do the entire legal process if you weren't an educated man. My guess is you had a decent life even before immigrating.
    I did, but that's how the system is supposed to work. Immigration can't be a free for all (albeit it seems to be now). If certain industries are lacking talent, you let some in.

    For those in need, there's humanitarian and political visas. For diversity, there's a capped diversity lottery. That's what's written in the books, and it's similar to immigration policies all around the world.

    Mexico right now deports as many or more Central Americans than the US does. They don't want a free for all for Guatemalans. Why would the US be any different?

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    It wasn't anyone's, it wasn't a country. There was no law or concept of property rights. We built it, now it's ours, and you did nothing to earn it. Without rule of law and yes that includes immigration law then we end up just like Mexico.
    You mean no pale man laws. Pretty sure the tribes themselves had territories that they claimed as their own. Those claims were ignored and the land taken by force. Doesn't seem all that different imo.

    Fun fact: at one pint in time Argentina was one of the most prosperous countries in the world. That's a topic for another time.
    That's irrelevant today. Cartels didn't run Mexico once upon a time either.

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    The tribes were mostly nomadic and fought eachother constantly IMHO. No system of laws or territory with some exceptions

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    No dude be honest that's not true. The typical corporate job demands 50-60 hours these days it's putting people in an early grave. Corporations don't tolerate laziness you either produce or you get ed. That's everyone including U.S. Citizens.
    office work =/= manual labor

    I did, but that's how the system is supposed to work. Immigration can't be a free for all (albeit it seems to be now). If certain industries are lacking talent, you let some in.

    For those in need, there's humanitarian and political visas. For diversity, there's a capped diversity lottery. That's what's written in the books, and it's similar to immigration policies all around the world.

    Mexico right now deports as many or more Central Americans than the US does. They don't want a free for all for Guatemalans. Why would the US be any different?
    Obviously there's something wrong with the system but these gots are pointing the finger at the wrong people. Clearly there is a need for cheap manual labor but hiring temporary legal immigrants would cost more $$$. The finger should be pointed at the businesses/government turning a blind eye to avoid paying that extra money not at the desperate people crossing over.

    Besides I really doubt giving them a legal working VISA would shut these gots up. They'd still cry about how they don't know English or about how the USA is wasting resources on seasonal immigrant workers.

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    The tribes were mostly nomadic and fought eachother constantly IMHO. No system of laws or territory with some exceptions
    If some had claims to territories then that means some were also wrongfully stripped of that land. Get out of that land and I'll get out of the U.S.

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    Obviously there's something wrong with the system but these gots are pointing the finger at the wrong people. Clearly there is a need for cheap manual labor but hiring temporary legal immigrants would cost more $$$. The finger should be pointed at the businesses/government turning a blind eye to avoid paying that extra money not at the desperate people crossing over.

    Besides I really doubt giving them a legal working VISA would shut these gots up. They'd still cry about how they don't know English or about how the USA is wasting resources on seasonal immigrant workers.
    I only speak for myself. What separates this country from most is that it's a country of laws. When we don't respect the law, we then become the same banana republic a lot of these people are fleeing from.

    It just can't be a free for all. It's broken, it needs fixing, and it won't be fixed by a government that's co-opted by the same guys that benefit from it.

    I just hope it doesn't take some shady character smuggling some heavy and blowing up a city before they get their asses in gear.

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    If some had claims to territories then that means some were also wrongfully stripped of that land. Get out of that land and I'll get out of the U.S.
    Might makes right it's mine now. But in your hypothetical situation id be going to a place with an equal living standard while yours would get 10 times worse so that's really telling me.

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    A leech that works harder than you and your fellow American slobs do. A leech that your big businesses and government love.
    A leech nonetheless.

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