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    4-25-20 Will Hunting's Avatar
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    If any country/state/terrorist organization/whatever can top the US's resume from WWII and beyond, I'd love to hear it. Unnecessarily fire bombing German/Japanese cities, starting wars that have resulted in millions of deaths, attempting coups d'etat in almost every Latin American and Middle Eastern country, most of which weren't good for the people living in those countries. This isn't even a close call.

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    Neo nazis aren't in power, poroshenko is a and is trying to disband the new nazi militias now that they're past their useful life. He told the right sector to lay down their arms and they threatened to attack kiev in retaliation. Pretty sure they are refusing and there is a lot of tension there right now
    You're probably paying more attention to it than I am but my understanding was that this "neo-nazi government" (not to say they actually are nazis) was the US-backed government and was also the government slaughtering Russian separatists en masse. Whether or not they're nazis doesn't really matter to me, I was more laughing at the fact he was putting a US puppet government above the US on a list of terrorist countries.

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    No the government was using the neo nazis as cannon fodder and backstabbed them, they have no representation in the new government after being the driving force in ousting the old one. They got cucked tbh.

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    You guys are sleeping on turkey, they are actually at war with an ethnic segment of their own population in the Kurds and have been aiding Isis up until now
    They've been fighting the Kurds for decades making sure they don't have their own country especially since Kurdish militants are trying to cause chaos as well. Their battles with the Kurds are nothing new. Actually, no one in that region wants the Kurds to have their own country, but the Turks are the biggest opponents.

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    Calling Pakistan a terrorist nation is inaccurate as well. Their are terrorist forces in that country, but the government is not a state sponsor of terrorism outside of maybe a small group in the Kashmir region. The Pakistani military have engaged against the Taliban/foreign militants for almost a decade now.

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    Turkey is just another puppet state for the US tbh. Their connections with ISIS just add to the pile of evidence that ISIS is the CIA's newest creation gone awry.

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    Turkey is just another puppet state for the US tbh. Their connections with ISIS just add to the pile of evidence that ISIS is the CIA's newest creation gone awry.
    Turkey used to be a western puppet until the last ten years when more theocratic officials were elected changing the tone of the government. It led to colder relations with Israel and more defiance towards the West. They really dislike the Asad administration and the Kurds which may be the reason why they didn't deal with ISIS until ISIS started to attack their cities.

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    China,,,by far,,,you guys think terrorism in a simplistic form,,,China is conquering the world quietly while carrying a big stick,,,,crushing opposition as they go,,,,You see the headlines with the U.S,,,Russia,,,the middle east,,,ect,,,now name me the last headline you saw with China in it involving terrorism and world politics. You can find one if you search for it but it wont be blatantly in your face like a smack with a sledgehammer,,,,

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    1. Jewish State of Israel in the Levant (JSIL) - with death rates of close to 75% civilians, it's not even close. There is no other organized military that can compete with their atrocities, when scaling for per-capita civilian deaths. They deliberately target women and children to "teach a lesson" to the population not to support their freedom fighters

    2. Saudi Arabia - one of the most backward societies on earth, terrible human rights record

    3. Islamic State - ed up dudes, but have only been at it a few years, otherwise they'd be higher

    4. Ukraine - Ultra nationalist neo-nazis

    5. US - admittedly the past 5 years or so have taken us out of the top 2, but extra-judicial drone murder in the hundreds across multiple countries while the obedient "free press" ignores every atrocity is quite disturbing
    ^arbiter of terrorism

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    Turkey used to be a western puppet until the last ten years when more theocratic officials were elected changing the tone of the government. It led to colder relations with Israel and more defiance towards the West. They really dislike the Asad administration and the Kurds which may be the reason why they didn't deal with ISIS until ISIS started to attack their cities.
    Spot on.

    Turkey has been undergoing step by step changes. It is slowly turning into a religious state..Perhaps not anytime close, but Erdogan has really left a mark.

    In the last few years, they've been trying to re-establish themselves as a potential Islamic leader after completely falling of the map due to liberalization.

    You see the liberal protest here and there, but make no mistake Erdogan and his peeps are strongly supported by a majority. Surprising, since from reading a few Turkish books about Turkey in the 80's you would think Islam would have no room for influence, and to my knowledge it was the case.

    I don't really know what happened in between, or maybe I am reading and hearing a different turkey from turks in the west..But it's really surprising to see a once very liberal turkey supporting Erdogan...

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    If any country/state/terrorist organization/whatever can top the US's resume from WWII and beyond, I'd love to hear it. Unnecessarily fire bombing German/Japanese cities, starting wars that have resulted in millions of deaths, attempting coups d'etat in almost every Latin American and Middle Eastern country, most of which weren't good for the people living in those countries. This isn't even a close call.
    this. all of this is do ented in history too... not just conspiracy.

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    Iran does support terrorism as well though..Not sure if I'd put them top 5..

    But Iran proxies like Hezbollah, houtis, the shia death squads are ruthless...

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    You all forgot dat Lefty's country tbh

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    All this talk about Iran using a bomb..

    The US killed millions of japanse with the A-Bomb.



    The US is probably the only government in the world that has serious moral issues and would be evil enough to drop an A-BOMB tbh.

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    Turkey is just another puppet state for the US tbh. Their connections with ISIS just add to the pile of evidence that ISIS is the CIA's newest creation gone awry.
    Turkey used to be a western puppet until the last ten years when more theocratic officials were elected changing the tone of the government. It led to colder relations with Israel and more defiance towards the West. They really dislike the Asad administration and the Kurds which may be the reason why they didn't deal with ISIS until ISIS started to attack their cities.
    Spot on.

    Turkey has been undergoing step by step changes. It is slowly turning into a religious state..Perhaps not anytime close, but Erdogan has really left a mark.

    In the last few years, they've been trying to re-establish themselves as a potential Islamic leader after completely falling of the map due to liberalization.

    You see the liberal protest here and there, but make no mistake Erdogan and his peeps are strongly supported by a majority. Surprising, since from reading a few Turkish books about Turkey in the 80's you would think Islam would have no room for influence, and to my knowledge it was the case.

    I don't really know what happened in between, or maybe I am reading and hearing a different turkey from turks in the west..But it's really surprising to see a once very liberal turkey supporting Erdogan...
    Great posts, glad to see some clear head people on this site. nothing but truth nukes tbh.
    All this talk about Iran using a bomb..

    The US killed millions of japanse with the A-Bomb.



    The US is probably the only government in the world that has serious moral issues and would be evil enough to drop an A-BOMB tbh.
    I know this is the funniest , we up Japan with it for decades, but no one else can have or use them. Russia and America have over 90% of the worlds nuclear weapons. The irony is that Jews created that thing and now it's scaring the out of them.

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    Spot on.

    Turkey has been undergoing step by step changes. It is slowly turning into a religious state..Perhaps not anytime close, but Erdogan has really left a mark.

    In the last few years, they've been trying to re-establish themselves as a potential Islamic leader after completely falling of the map due to liberalization.

    You see the liberal protest here and there, but make no mistake Erdogan and his peeps are strongly supported by a majority. Surprising, since from reading a few Turkish books about Turkey in the 80's you would think Islam would have no room for influence, and to my knowledge it was the case.

    I don't really know what happened in between, or maybe I am reading and hearing a different turkey from turks in the west..But it's really surprising to see a once very liberal turkey supporting Erdogan...
    Yep. Theocrats in any state or place in the world are cancerous and dangerous to society. The world would be such a better place without religion it's not even funny.

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    lol you pudgy sedentary gots who's strongest contribution against any of is is a poorly written rant on an obscure Sports message forum... you ers crack me up.

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