Are We Really Safer?

[TheSanityAnnex]

seems to be you're maybe overstressing the explanatory value of the bare fact of racial phenotype of the perps (and the victims) with respect to murders in the USA.

what does it mean that African-Americans commit one half of the homicides in the US?

Guns are readily available to all races here, why are blacks the outlier when it comes to murder rate?

[Winehole23]

dunno.

you cited the figure. I don't challenge it. what's your interpretation of it?

[DarrinS]

other than the fact that such statistics, you know, make such a great prop for arrogant racists who think they're winning online. you did want to talk about this right?

CN, DarrinS and TSA: don't y'all have anything to say about the statistics you posted?

13% committing 50%, mostly against their own people. I guess the data is racist.

[TheSanityAnnex]

no takes on own posts? raw figures only?




(internet smoke signals)

And please, don't think because you don't get an instant response people have ran away, that is childish. I have to do but will check back in from time to time. I promise I won't pull a Splits.

[TheSanityAnnex]

13% committing 50%, mostly against their own people. I guess the data is racist.

Actually it's closer to 7% committing 50% as the perps are mostly male.

[Winehole23]

ok, African Americans murder disproportionately. that's already conceded.

what does the solitary statistic mean to you? what's its explanatory value, if any?

how do you analyze it? you want to talk about race and murder, say something about it.

bringing up a single statistic over and over again, then swiftly retiring from the conversation except to repeat it, isn't a conversation.

[Clipper Nation]

CN, DarrinS and TSA: don't y'all have anything to say about the statistics you posted?

Seems to me that the claim that the US is some hugely unsafe country is a lie. OP and the rest of the anti-gun nuts should move to Honduras if they want to see a real dangerous country.

[TheSanityAnnex]

ok, African Americans murder disproportionately. that's already conceded.

what does the solitary statistic mean to you? how do you analyze it?

To me it means guns aren't the problem.

[Winehole23]

Seems to me that the claim that the US is some hugely unsafe country is a lie.

compared to similarly prosperous countries, we are.

[Winehole23]

To me it means guns aren't the problem.

What's the problem, maestro?

[DarrinS]

What percent of murders are committed with legally owned firearms?

[Winehole23]

To me it means guns aren't the problem.

I don't see how a single data point rules out the explanatory value of the general prevalence of guns, whatsoever. you're gonna have to walk me through that.

your reasoning so far is elliptical at best, vanishing at worst.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What's the problem, maestro?

Poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, no father, glorified gang culture.

[boutons_deux]

Irrefutable FACT: More guns (300M+) means more gun violence.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Not sure if this picture is going to work pasting from my phone but I'm going to give it a shot.


Damn it didn't work. Been building something this morning.

[Trill Clinton]

Compare America to 3rd world holes, brehs

[TheSanityAnnex]

Irrefutable FACT: More guns (300M+) means more gun violence.

Add one more to the 300M+

Just finished building this morning

Are squirrels and rabbits really safer? Not at all. Perfect camping gun and will fit in a small backpack.

Heading out now to sight it in, but don't worry I'll be safe and have my head on a swivel. I'll be on the lookout for people with guns at the range, especially blacks with guns.

[unleashbaynes]

It's not about guns. Just end the massive failure known as the "war on drugs" and most of this bull goes away.

[Winehole23]

Poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, no father, glorified gang culture.

ins utional racism and its knock on effects. sure, why not?

[Winehole23]

It's not about guns. Just end the massive failure known as the "war on drugs" and most of this bull goes away.

sure, why not?

[Winehole23]

Poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, no father, glorified gang culture.

what policies are appealing as solutions to these social ills, besides deporting 13% percent of Americans, which obviously would be the most expeditious thing to do?

[Winehole23]

Poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, no father, glorified gang culture.

absent the prevalence of guns, these wouldn't so deadly in the USA.

[DarrinS]

Compare America to 3rd world holes, brehs

As opposed to comparing the U.S. To Iceland

[TeyshaBlue]

absent the prevalence of guns, these wouldn't so deadly in the USA.

Maybe.

[TeyshaBlue]

Lots of ways to be violent.