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    Trump’s Second Amendment Position Papers Are a White Gun Fellator’s Wet Dream

    The position paper, PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms tells us:

    The Second Amendment to our Cons ution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.

    The problem is, that is not what the Second Amendment says at all and Trump proves again and again he did not actually read the Second Amendment before he wrote his position papers on it.
    There, the rest of us can plainly read:

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    Trump forgot about the “well regulated militia” being the reason for bearing arms. And forgetting about the militia means Trump misunderstands what those arms are for.

    He goes on to claim:
    The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Cons ution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.

    Plain and simple…no, not really plain and simple at all.

    What is a militia Trump has ignored, you ask? Rather than going to a modern dictionary to see why they needed guns (in case the Second Amendment isn’t clear enough on that), let’s open up Samuel Johnson’s A Dictionary of the English Language (London, 1768):

    MILITIA. F. [Latin] The train bands; the standing force of a nation

    TRAINBANDS. F. The militia; the part of a community trained to martial exercise.

    So the militia is the standing force of the nation. And in the absence of the Continental Army during the Revolution, the militia was precisely that, sometimes standing up to the British, sometimes melting away, taking their guns with them.It is important to note here that the Founding Fathers were su ious of standing armies, so after the Revolution, we had a “well regulated militia” instead. This militia had its backsides handed to them by a Native American force at the Battle of the Wabash in 1791.

    The United States Cons ution, of course, was drafted in 1787 during the primacy of the militia, and ratified in 1788, both events occurring before President George Washington decided we needed an actual, professional army in 1792. So strictly speaking, the Second Amendment speaks to an era that had ceased to exist by 1792 with the establishment of Mad Anthony Wayne’s “Legion of the United States” (not renamed the United States Army until 1796).It is a shame the Founding Fathers did not bother to change the Second Amendment to reflect the new reality, that Americans no longer needed to be armed like an army because they no longer were an army.

    Today, of course, we not only have a standing, active-duty army, but we have the Army Reserve and a new sort of militia, the National Guard.
    Needless to say, unlike 1776, we no longer have to carry our own weapons to National Guard training. The Army provides the weapons these days.

    Technically speaking, the Second Amendment describes a reality that no longer prevails.
    The problem Trump has here is that he sees guns as a means of defending our homes against intruders, and that is not how guns are written into the United States Cons ution. Communities in the 18th century would muster the able-bodied men with their weapons on the village green and drill like soldiers.

    And they had to: they were the closet thing to Samuel Johnson’s standing army. But armies were never intended to control our own people, but to ward off outside enemies.

    Donald Trump, on the other hand, wants to use guns to control crime.

    Bernie Sanders wants fewer prisons, and to eliminate private prisons.

    Donald Trump wants to throw more people into prison. And he makes a careful distinction between white folks with guns, who are okay in his book, and “other” people with guns, or “drug dealers and gang members” as he calls them.

    We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.

    Then there are the “okay” people:Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns.

    Like the Oath Keepers aiming guns at federal officers?

    That sort of non-violent?

    Or offering to “protect” Kim Davis from re-arrest?

    Or trying to intimidate a judge at his home by gathering outside, armed?

    Or entering into government offices, armed, to intimidate lawmakers?

    Those were all actions carried out by white people with guns.

    Yet Trump believes no white man with a gun can be wrong,proposes:

    Empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.

    Common sense tells Trump to turn a bunch of untrained yokels with guns, who as often as not shoot themselves or each other by accident, or are shot by their wives or children by accident because they leave their loaded weapons lying around, loose on criminals. Donald Trump thinks this is the answer to crime.Trump complains in his papers that “law-abiding gun owners…get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen,” but has no problem assigning group guilt to blacks or Mexicans or Muslims for the actions of a violent few.It’s just that in Trump’s white supremacist world, white folks with guns can do no wrong.

    And Trump doesn’t want to confuse people with terms like “assault weapon” or “high capacity magazine”: he says “Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice.”

    The old adage Keeping up with the Joneses just assumed a terrifying new dimension.Trump neither read nor understood the Second Amendment, but uses it as just an excuse for “law-abiding” (read: white) folks to lock and load while we clear everyone else off the streets, and oh, by the way,

    that concealed carry permit should be valid in your neighborhood too, even if your community says no, because, you know, it’s a “right.”

    Never mind the Second Amendment’s failure to mention “concealed carry,” because why would a militia conceal its weapons?

    We need to thank Donald J. Trump for releasing his position papers on the Second Amendment. They are very…illuminating, to say the least. We now have a fuller understanding of Trump’s “us vs. them” world and how he intends to “manage” it.

    White folks with guns are just protecting themselves and maintaining law and order. Other folks…well, there are always those prisons Republicans love so much.

    Let’s see – Übermensch on the streets with guns. Untermenschen in the prisons. That’s Donald Trump’s America.Does that sound at all familiar to you? It should. Welcome to Germany, 1933.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/19/trumps-second-amendment-position-papers-dream.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&u tm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politic us+USA+%29



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    Re ed article, especially when Godwin's Law kicked in at the end. I know libs aren't big on facts, but Hitler confiscated all firearms from Jews and political opponents. When the Nazis took over France, the French had to give up their guns too.

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    Which German Jews had guns by 1938 when the prohibition was passed?

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    gotta love CN dinging boutons for the argumentum ad Hitlerum, then immediately suc bing to his own.

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    Seeking distance from Trump, California GOP loosens immigration stance

    The California Republican Party voted Sunday to soften its stance on immigration, responding to harsh rhetoric from presidential candidate Donald Trump.

    Republicans have been struggling to find a balance between appealing to the Golden State's growing Latino population and satisfying its base of white conservatives. The problem has grown more pressing with Trump, a New York real estate mogul, soaring to the top of the primary polls while advocating a crackdown on illegal immigration.

    The changes say Republicans "hold diverse views" on "what to do with the millions of people who are currently here illegally." The wording of the amendment was tweaked after a Saturday committee meeting, which used the phrase "otherwise law-abiding folks" instead of "people."

    Although the new language emphasizes opposition to "amnesty," it removes the statement that "allowing illegal immigrants to remain in California undermines respect for the law."


    The changes were proposed by a Latino party official from Fresno, Marcelino Valdez, who said it was a reaction to Trump's "offensive" comments on immigrants.

    It's important to use "language that is more appealing to California's diverse electorate," Valdez said.

    In a statement after the vote, he called it "an anti-Proposition 187 plank," referring to the controversial 1994 ballot measure that would have prevented immigrants in the country illegally from receiving public services. It was invalidated by federal courts, but not before it helped drive Latinos away from the Republican Party.


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    Carl Icahn is going to do amazing things for this country as our Secretary of State. We are going to win again. I can't wait!

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    If you would have to predict....who would be president for 2016?Any guesses on who will be the next President?

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    If you would have to predict....who would be president for 2016?Any guesses on who will be the next President?
    No matter what it's going to suck, which is one reason I'm moving back overseas in a few years. But my money would be on Rubio vs. Clinton with Clinton winning.

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    Another Trump critic bites the dust:

    NY TIMES: Scott Walker Said to Be Quitting Presidential Race

    http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...T.nav=top-news

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    No matter what it's going to suck, which is one reason I'm moving back overseas in a few years. But my money would be on Rubio vs. Clinton with Clinton winning.
    At this point I have no clue who will be president...For all I know Obama could serve 3rd term by suspending the 2016..vote....who knows its a toss up....but Clinton could be president 2016

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    For all I know Obama could serve 3rd term by suspending the 2016..vote.
    You really don't know much of anything.

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    No matter what it's going to suck, which is one reason I'm moving back overseas in a few years. But my money would be on Rubio vs. Clinton with Clinton winning.
    where overseas?

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    The chart says Trump is winning.....Do you think he will be president for 2016?

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    Yes, get used to addressing him as president trump

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    Switzerland. Most likely Basel.

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    What People Around the World Think of America After Trump's Bewildering Rise


    http://www.alternet.org/what-people-...wildering-rise

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    An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

    TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?

    The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

    In order to adequately answer Mr. Ramos’ question, let’s first make some assumptions on the project’s scope: A successful border wall must be effective, cheap, and easily maintained. It should be built from readily available materials and should take advantage of the capabilities of the existing labor force. The wall should reach about five feet underground to deter tunneling, and should terminate about 20 feet above grade to deter climbing.

    If we assume a border wall length of 1,954 miles (there are 600 or so miles of existing border barrier, but much of this would not qualify for Trump’s wall), then we can make some estimates as to the volume of concrete needed for the project:


    • Foundation: 6 feet deep, 18 inch radius = 42.4 cubic feet
    • Column: 4 square feet area by 30 feet tall = 120 cubic feet
    • Wall panels: 25 feet tall by 10 feet long by 8 inches thick = 166.7 cubic feet
    • Total concrete per 10 foot segment = 329.1 cubic feet
    • 1,954 miles = 10,300,00 feet = 1,030,000 segments (10-feet long each)
    • 1,030,000 segments * 329.1 cubic feet per segment = 339,000,000 cubic feet = 12,555,000 cubic yards. (The cubic yard is the standard unit of measure of concrete volume in the United States.)


    Twelve million, six hundred thousand cubic yards
    . In other words, this wall would contain over three times the amount of concrete used to build the Hoover Dam

    Such a wall would be greater in volume than all six pyramids of the Giza Necropolis — and it is unlikely that a concrete slab in the town of Dead Dog Valley, Texas would inspire the same timeless sense of wonder.

    Concrete, of course, requires reinforcing steel (or rebar). A reasonable estimate for the amount of rebar would be about 3 percent of the total wall size, resulting in a steel volume of 10,190,000 cubic feet, or about 5 billion pounds. We could melt down 4 of our Nimitz-class aircraft carriers and would probably be a few cruisers short of having enough steel.

    This analysis also ignores the less sexy aspects of large-scale engineering projects: surveying, land acquisition, environmental review, geological studies, maintenance, excavating for foundations, and so on. Theoretical President Trump may be able to executive-order his way through the laser grid of lawsuits that normally impede this kind of work, but he can’t ignore the physical realities of construction.

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/an-engin..._frequency_six

    iow, Donny T is a bull ting conman.



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    If you build it they wont come.

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    who says it has to be built of concrete?

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    who says it has to be built of concrete?
    what would you build it with? the article addresses alternatives

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    If the Chinese could do it centuries ago, we can do it now. All we need is the will to do it.

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    If you let Mexicans build it. They will come. But then they should leave.

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