***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread *****

[Avante]

The best ATS team with their current coach/QB?

Arizona Cardinals. In the Bruce Arians era they are 25-11-1.

That is by far the best.

[Avante]

I have this picture (actually the cover of an ESPN the Magazine) of Colin Kaepernick on my Fortress of Solitude wall. Seriously thinking about taking it down and no I'm not over reacting over one game, he's been sucking for awhile now.

And, I traded a ton to get his rookie card, sheesh~~~~~~~~~

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Speaking of Chiefs wide receivers....

They have only had one "great" wide receiver, and he's nowhere to be found on any list, this would be Otis Taylor.

Look at the franchises top receivers in their history.

Tony Gonzalez..TE
Otis Taylor
Henry Marshall
Carlos Carson
Stephone Paige

I bet most of you have never heard of those guys except Gonzalez. And, back in their very beginnings their best receiver was Fred Arbansas a TE, who was the best TE in the old AFL. Wy they have always been so weak at that position (Taylor the exception)....??? It's weird actually. They have had a ton of great backs however, Abner Haynes the first great AFL back

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Then there's the Patriots who have done what they have without that great runnig back, , the franchise rushing leader is still Sam "Bam" Cunningham. They did have big Jim Nance way back when but he wasn't "great". Curtis Martin was more a Jet.

[Silver&Black]

The latest rumors I'm hearing is that since Kaepernick signed such a "team friendly" (to use their words) deal....the 9ers can cut bait after this year. And are seriously contemplating the thought of releasing him.

Your thoughts Avante? Any way you see the 49ers letting him go?

[Avante]

The latest rumors I'm hearing is that since Kaepernick signed such a "team friendly" (to use their words) deal....the 9ers can cut bait after this year. And are seriously contemplating the thought of releasing him.

Your thoughts Avante? Any way you see the 49ers letting him go?

It's real obvious the guy let his celebrity get in the way of his job. His decision making and leadership not good. Doesn't know how to be somebody.

I do doubt he can turn it around now, which isn't saying he won;t have a good game now and then. But his days as a NFL QB and all that means should be over after this season. Yep, unless he does a total turn (won't happen) I let him go. He can't hang around as a back up for the obvious reasons.

Trust me, I'd love to be totally wrong about this and the guy does rev it up and makes what I just said look....DUH!

[SpursforSix]

I have this picture (actually the cover of an ESPN the Magazine) of Colin Kaepernick on my Fortress of Solitude wall.

I bet you do.

[Avante]

I bet you do.

It's not that one.

Son, do we really need the...hi, I'm a dumb kid on the internet.....from you? Grow up little fella, ok?

Little people, elevate your game, ok? Don't bother me with your stupidity/immaturity, ok?

[Avante]

I use a system...

road wins
home wins
home losses
road losses
points scored
points given up

and attach a point value to each. It's not too good early for obvious reasons but is a great tool around week six.

As of right now...

Arizona...14
Atlanta...9
Baltimore....1
Buffalo...8
Carolina...9
Chicago...0
Cinncy...10
Cleveland...2
Dallas...5
Denver...10
Detroit...0
GB...10
Houston...0
Indy...2
Jax...0
KC...2
Miami...2
Minnesota...6
NE...11
NO...0
NYG...2
NYJ...7
Oakland...4
Philly...4
Pitt....8
St.Louis...2
SD...3
SF...0
Seattle....5
TB...1
Tenn..5
Wash...0

[SpursforSix]

I use a system...

Masturbating over the sports section and making picks based on the splatters.

[Will Hunting]

Avante what do you think of these plays this weekend. Haven't done much research yet but these all look tempting:

NY Giants +6
Dallas +3.5 (this might change if Brees doesn't play)
Minnesota +7
Carolina -3.5
Cincinnati -3.5
San Diego -7

[SpursforSix]

Avante what do you think of these plays this weekend. Haven't done much research yet but these all look tempting:

NY Giants +6
Dallas +3.5 (this might change if Brees doesn't play)
Minnesota +7
Carolina -3.5
Cincinnati -3.5
San Diego -7

Avante likes Carolina for a strong bet.

[Avante]

Masturbating over the sports section and making picks based on the splatters.

Grow up little man, ok? And you're boring as ...ok?

[Avante]

Avante what do you think of these plays this weekend. Haven't done much research yet but these all look tempting:

NY Giants +6
Dallas +3.5 (this might change if Brees doesn't play)
Minnesota +7
Carolina -3.5
Cincinnati -3.5
San Diego -7

It's too early for me right now, other than Arizona -7 because I was looking at that last week as a play. Will look at those games (tons of onfo) later and we'll talk about them. Right now I'd would just be guessing, which isn't good.

[Avante]

Avante likes Carolina for a strong bet.

Don't ever do that muther er, you got that ? Don't ever play that, ya ing prick, got it?

[SpursforSix]

It's too early for me right now, other than Arizona -7 because I was looking at that last week as a play. Will look at those games (tons of onfo) later and we'll talk about them. Right now I'd would just be guessing, which isn't good.

Don't kid yourself old timer. You're always guessing.
We'll talk later.

[SpursforSix]

Don't ever do that muther er, you got that ? Don't ever play that, ya ing prick, got it?

You're OK being called a pedo but this is what sets you off?
Classic presentation of a pedo.

[Avante]

Don't kid yourself old timer. You're always guessing.
We'll talk later.

Are you ing re ed or what? I go with info/stats/trends 99% of the time.

Dude, just how stupid are you?

[Avante]

You're OK being called a pedo but this is what sets you off?
Classic presentation of a pedo.

Dude, when we have a bunch of dummies here with no clue about that deal over there, I expect the stupidity. Anyone with even half a brain can tell I'm no pedo. Dumb s like you, who cares what you think?

[spurraider21]

Avante likes Carolina for a strong bet.

OK I'll take his word for it. I usually don't trust his trends and stuff but I'll lay a few on Carolina if he's sure

[Will Hunting]

It's too early for me right now, other than Arizona -7 because I was looking at that last week as a play. Will look at those games (tons of onfo) later and we'll talk about them. Right now I'd would just be guessing, which isn't good.

Yeah I normally wouldn't place bets this early but I'm particularly worried the line is gonna move on the Giants game if it's announced Cruz will be back this week.

[SpursforSix]

OK I'll take his word for it. I usually don't trust his trends and stuff but I'll lay a few on Carolina if he's sure

Yep. He says it's a 100 10. This means if you normally bet 10 on average, you should bet $100. Basically a ten timer.

[Avante]

Yeah I normally wouldn't place bets this early but I'm particularly worried the line is gonna move on the Giants game if it's announced Cruz will be back this week.

I get ya about trying to grab the early line.

Ok...

The Giants as a RD....7-8-1 the last three seasons. We have to ignore the Bills trends because of Ryan.

I don't like it.

Stay away from teams with backup QB's, so there goes Dallas.

We do have some interesting trends for the Vikes.

6-0 ATS heading into a bye.
5-3 as a RD under Zimmer.

Don't have enought info with Kubiak to get a read on Denver.

This would be a...???

Too many negative trends for Carolina in the "spot". They are the opposite of the Vikes, they suck ATS proir to a bye week.

Cleveland was 5-1 ATS as a RD in 2014. While the Chargers have gone 6-4 as a HF under McCoy.

Don't like it.

Kansas City on the road again vs a good team, not good. A lot of conflicting trends in this one but it's real obvious Cinncy is simply on another level right now at home. I am looking at this play also.

[Avante]

On a Tuesday I'm looking to weed out those games where I can't find a reason to play them. I'm searching for "spots" that favor one team big time over another.

Arizona...4-0 ATS under Arians vs Rams...possible play.
Atlanta...at home and rolling vs a Texan team that 2-3-1 ATS in this "spot"...possible play.
Forget Baltimore vs Pitt Thursday, too many...???
Need more info on the Rex Ryan Bills....pass.
Carolina....they are 0-5 heading into a bye week, no way I take TB on the road....pass.
Chicago at home with a back up QB, nay~~~~~ Can't take the Raiders on the road "again"...pass.
Cinncy is cooking right now, hot! While the Chiefs are on the road "again" coming off a short week...possible play.

And on and on, I'm looking for the best 3-6 plays that week. It starts by weeding out those games with too many..???

The strongest "trends" play this week would be Indy vs Jax. The Colts have dominated ATS in the Luck era, going 5-1, winning the last 5 ATS. The Colts vs the division ATS in the Luck era...14-3-2. While the Jags are 7-10-1 as a RD under Bradley. That's a strong 24-13-3 trend in favor of the Colts.

I get this is the internet and a lot of dumb ass little kids like a Blake MUST with others in hiding, when if they had even half a brain they'd pay attention to how this is done.

I was reluctant to hand out free $$$$ and wasn't going to do that this season, but, it. Pay attention and learn something.

You really do need to know how these team do ATS in whatever role thay are in that week.

HF...home favorite
HD...home underdog
RF...road fav
RD..road dog

Home/Road......HUGE~~~~~~

I am talking to the serious players here. It would be cool if the little punks with no clue stayed away, ok?

[Clipper Nation]

Masturbating over the sports section and making picks based on the splatters.

[Avante]

Ok, plus $840.

110 to win 100

Indy - 3.5
Ariz - 6.5
Pitt - 2.5
NE - 14.5
Buff + 2.5
Caro - 9

Will decide on the GB game if ahead.

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I did decide on the GB game, won 200 there.

[chunticakes]

On a Tuesday I'm looking to weed out those games where I can't find a reason to play them. I'm searching for "spots" that favor one team big time over another.

Arizona...4-0 ATS under Arians vs Rams...possible play.
Atlanta...at home and rolling vs a Texan team that 2-3-1 ATS in this "spot"...possible play.
Forget Baltimore vs Pitt Thursday, too many...???
Need more info on the Rex Ryan Bills....pass.
Carolina....they are 0-5 heading into a bye week, no way I take TB on the road....pass.
Chicago at home with a back up QB, nay~~~~~ Can't take the Raiders on the road "again"...pass.
Cinncy is cooking right now, hot! While the Chiefs are on the road "again" coming off a short week...possible play.

And on and on, I'm looking for the best 3-6 plays that week. It starts by weeding out those games with too many..???

The strongest "trends" play this week would be Indy vs Jax. The Colts have dominated ATS in the Luck era, going 5-1, winning the last 5 ATS. The Colts vs the division ATS in the Luck era...14-3-2. While the Jags are 7-10-1 as a RD under Bradley. That's a strong 24-13-3 trend in favor of the Colts.

I get this is the internet and a lot of dumb ass little kids like a Blake MUST with others in hiding, when if they had even half a brain they'd pay attention to how this is done.

I was reluctant to hand out free $$$$ and wasn't going to do that this season, but, it. Pay attention and learn something.

You really do need to know how these team do ATS in whatever role thay are in that week.

HF...home favorite
HD...home underdog
RF...road fav
RD..road dog

Home/Road......HUGE~~~~~~

I am talking to the serious players here. It would be cool if the little punks with no clue stayed away, ok?

What do you do when there's multiple conflicting trends? Are there weeks when you sit out?