they're 2-4 and still have arguably the tiest defense in the NFL. They're going to finish 6-10 at best.
I actually agree with this; i think the taints are a team. I just also think Atlanta is a bunch of frauds like they are every year. i honestly can't think of a softer player than Ryan in the nfl
Don't be fooled. He's basically saying the NFC South is soft, which it isn't. The Falcons may be fools gold and the Saints may not have a defense, but they are two tough teams to play. Anytime you play QB's with that type of accuracy it's a tough game. Remember, he is a Patriots fan. He ignores that the division has been one of the best for years until last year.
yeah i watched and it was pretty freaking great. the rbs rushed for 8.2 ypc and it wasn't fluky, they had enormous wholes on every running play. they had no problem moving the offense, they just made too many mistakes and abandoned the run in the second. 3 lost fumbles to 0 and a blocked punt for a td. yeah, you ain't winning
yeah i watched and it was pretty freaking great. the rbs rushed for 8.2 ypc and it wasn't fluky, they had enormous wholes on every running play. they had no problem moving the offense, they just made too many mistakes and abandoned the run in the second. 3 lost fumbles to 0 and a blocked punt for a td. yeah, you ain't winning
NO didn't score off any of those fumbles, iirc.
Neither did Atlanta.
point being that ty ass healthy ATL defense allowed three touchdowns
What are you tryin to say? Good teams don't turn it over in crucial times.
They lost the Tampa game by 7 points. A missed XP and missed FG account for 4 points. Your math isn't adding up.
McCown's INT was also a desperation pass on 3rd down that was maybe an unlucky interception but had no shot at being completed. If it was simply an incompletion, it would have been 4th and 6, so chances are high that NO would still lose the game.
These are also all plays that had to do with poor execution, it's not like they were just unlucky plays that don't reflect on how good/bad the Saints are. Missing FGs and throwing redzone interceptions are two things that bad teams do and good teams don't do.
"If you don't count any of the interceptions or missed field goals, the Saints are actually really good!"
No I'm not, you only think I am because you're that defensive and touchy about the Panthers so you interpret talking about any NFC South team as an indirect jab at the Panthers.
I don't think the NFC South is a great division or anything but I think it's better than the NFC East, AFC South (by far the worst division), and AFC West and not any worse than a few other divisions. I essentially think it's a middle of the pack division strength-wise. Do you feel better now?
In the Tampa game, they were in FG range for the final drive so potentially they could have tied the game instead of going for a late touchdown and maybe sent it to OT.
But the point wasn't about unlucky plays. It was just being a play or two away from winning the game. Two different arguments. Saints were close to winning both of those games. No one said bad luck or unlucky plays. They could have easily lost the Cowboys game as well
Don't be intellectually dishonest, bad/unlucky plays is what was implied since the original argument was that the Saints are better than their record indicates. If all we're talking about are a few plays that the Saints executed poorly on then that does not to disprove them being a bad team since that's what bad teams do, they execute poorly.
I was making the point that the Saints defense isn't great and those turnovers probably kept a couple of Atlanta touchdowns off the board.
Someone was making the point that those TO's didn't help the Saints (because they didn't score off of them). But a couple of them were deep in NO territory.
You won't get any argument from me about Atlanta not being great.
Still would rather see them win than the Cats tbh.
has OP ever been right about anything? avante-like
This ing guy is a massive bad luck charm just like I said.
you OP
This guy is the NFL forum version of the Hater Curse
The "stare at Julio for 20 seconds on every play" offense isn't working anymore
Hey, at least the Falcons don't have Aqeeb Taliban drawing game-ending penalties for being a dumb jihadist terroristThe "stare at Julio for 20 seconds on every play" offense isn't working anymore
Damn, bro..they might be one of the 3 worst teams in the NFC
I can easily see the Bucs making it in over the Falcons.Damn, bro..they might be one of the 3 worst teams in the NFC
they've lost 6 of 7
Matty got throwing coaches under the bus
Blaming coaches for red zone interceptions week after week
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