Lakers: Tbh, guys who are infatuated in analytics, why do you think Russell will bust?

[Raven]

Like we woulda been so much better off with Okafor's soft ass. We already got one rookie big who can't defend worth a in Randle.

indeed. It's pretty much the same, to have a guy who get's locked down by jose calderon and a guy who averages 20 points almost 6 rebounds and more than a block per game straight away in his rookie season when he's 19.

[Jzone]

indeed. It's pretty much the same, to have a guy who get's locked down by jose calderon and a guy who averages 20 points almost 6 rebounds and more than a block per game straight away in his rookie season when he's 19.

Almost 6 rebounds? Impressive.

[RsxPiimp]

indeed. It's pretty much the same, to have a guy who get's locked down by jose calderon and a guy who averages 20 points almost 6 rebounds and more than a block per game straight away in his rookie season when he's 19.

omg

[Cry Havoc]

Well, the PG position isn't typically the centerpiece to a le team unless you have someone historically good like Curry.


Having a "good" big man/front court player is much more important to both sides of the court than a "good" PG. If the Lakers were hoping that Russell would be a HOFer as he develops, there's nothing wrong with the pick. He's oversized for his position and seems to have some skill.

But I seriously doubt he reaches the transcendent level that can set LA up for le runs, or even playoff runs in the near future. And there are plenty of solid, serviceable PGs in the league right now, with several excellent PGs, so I don't think he's going to be valued as a possible trade for a superstar.

[RsxPiimp]

Well, the PG position isn't typically the centerpiece to a le team unless you have someone historically good like Curry.


Having a "good" big man/front court player is much more important to both sides of the court than a "good" PG. If the Lakers were hoping that Russell would be a HOFer as he develops, there's nothing wrong with the pick. He's oversized for his position and seems to have some skill.

But I seriously doubt he reaches the transcendent level that can set LA up for le runs, or even playoff runs in the near future. And there are plenty of solid, serviceable PGs in the league right now, with several excellent PGs, so I don't think he's going to be valued as a possible trade for a superstar.

Small ball revolution disagrees...

[Cry Havoc]

Small ball revolution disagrees...

It's not a revolution yet. Small ball le teams are still vastly the outliers.

2015 - GSW - Outlier with the best shooter in history.
2014 - Spurs - Can't really call that small ball with Tim Duncan in the paint and their best player a 6'8" SF with a massive armspan.
2013 - Heat - Again, driven by a 6'8" Point-Forward. Hardly small. Terrible PG.
2012 - Heat
2011 - Mavs - Tyson Chandler, Marion, and Dirk - Again, not even close to small ball. Good PG but way past his prime.

[Raven]

Almost 6 rebounds? Impressive.

omg

well, i guess we will see today how many he can get when noel is not the designed rebounder..

[RsxPiimp]

well, i guess we will see today how many he can get when noel is not the designed rebounder..

Horrible efficiency frm Okafor though 15 Rebs is a good improvement.

Despite that, just like at Duke, he's been a terrible defender allowing his opponents to score 51%.

[Raven]

Horrible efficiency frm Okafor though 15 Rebs is a good improvement.

Despite that, just like at Duke, he's been a terrible defender allowing his opponents to score 51%.

he's actually been sound on D. doesn't jump on fakes, keeps his arms straight up, understands defensive roations ... strongly reminds of duncan with less athleticism. When they will have more weapons and the guards will actually make all those open threes, he'll be unstoppable.

[RsxPiimp]

he's actually been sound on D. doesn't jump on fakes, keeps his arms straight up, understands defensive roations ... strongly reminds of duncan with less athleticism. When they will have more weapons and the guards will actually make all those open threes, he'll be unstoppable.

Statistical data disagrees tho
DFG inside 6 ft is at 51%


http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/16261...=jahlil-okafor

For comparison, KAT is doing a phenomenal job holding his man to 42%

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/16261...cking/defense/

[RsxPiimp]

Also, gotta give credit to Pau. He did a great job defensively on Oak during the first half (2-12)

[Kawhitstorm]

Care to share how Lamarsha is doing.

LaMarsha is sitting pretty in 2nd place only behind the Dubs in the vaunted Western conference & he's just cruising at the moment. Marc Gasol on the other hand is sitting in his lockerroom wishing he had signed up to be Kawhi's wingman.

[Raven]

Statistical data disagrees tho
DFG inside 6 ft is at 51%


http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/16261...=jahlil-okafor

For comparison, KAT is doing a phenomenal job holding his man to 42%

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/16261...cking/defense/

you don't use advanced analytics on a 6 game span.

[Kawhitstorm]

Horrible efficiency frm Okafor though 15 Rebs is a good improvement.

He had as many defensive rebounds as Mirotic

[Kawhitstorm]

Career projections:

Who the is doing WAR projection for players before they ever stepped a foot in the pros?

Justice Winslow might end up having the best career WAR when it's all said & done.

[Jzone]

Ya'll wanna see some real impact look at Towns not these two scrubs Russell and Okafor

[DMC]

Ya'll wanna see some real impact look at Towns not these two scrubs Russell and Okafor

That's it, dismiss Okafor along with your guy as if they are the same.

[RsxPiimp]

you don't use advanced analytics on a 6 game span.

you can, in this day and age, any statistical data be it small or large is widely accepted.


otherwise we're left using the ever reliable eye test or raw stats.

[Jzone]

That's it, dismiss Okafor along with your guy as if they are the same.

And yall stay on his nuts as if he's the next tim duncan

[RsxPiimp]

Who the is doing WAR projection for players before they ever stepped a foot in the pros?

Justice Winslow might end up having the best career WAR when it's all said & done.

It's just a projection based on their collegiate career, I agree it's non applicable in the pros but since we're talking about potentials, it's not a bad stat.

Winslow is a beast tho, his defensive impact is undeniable, much more coming from a wing player

Justise Winslow has had an immediate impact for the Miami Heat on defense.

Winslow has defended LeBron James, James Harden, Paul George and DeMar DeRozan.

Among players to defend at least 50 field goal attempts this season, Winslow ranks tied for third in the NBA in defensive field goal percentage (32.8%) with San Antonio's Kawhi Leonard (32.8%) and Minnesota's Ricky Rubio (32.8).

In defensive field goal differential, Winslow ranks 12th in the NBA.

“He’s confusing me," said Chris Bosh. "You always want to kind of be easy on the rookies, but he is raising the bar every game with his maturity and ability and knack to play defense. I’ve never seen anything like it as long as I’ve been in this league from a rookie. He’s not making many mistakes. He’s playing solid defense. He’s already built like a tank. Him just being able to move his feet is helping us out a lot.”

[DMC]

And yall stay on his nuts as if he's the next tim duncan

We didn't have a chance to draft him though... lol

[100%duncan]

Ya'll wanna see some real impact look at Towns not these two scrubs Russell and Okafor

Or Porzingis

tee hee

[RsxPiimp]

+28

[DMC]

+28

L

[RsxPiimp]

L

Oh my. Good night POPs.