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    McCallum reminds me of Corey Joesph

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    You are correct.

    10 points, including 2 of 2 from 3pt range, 4 of 9 shooting overall, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, only 1 turnover, and 1 foul.

    Slomo did fine.
    How can any Spurs fan not celebrate that stat line from Kyle? And he rated "good" on the eyeball test, too. The block came on a first quarter play that was pretty frenzied. He blocked the shot and then hustled to flip it to a teammate before it went out of bounds. Very nice play.

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    McCallum reminds me of Corey Joesph
    I think he reminds the Spurs of Corey Joseph, too (except twice a month).

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    That game was all on popovich. Every time we'd get a big lead, he's put in a bull lineup. We could have won that game by at least 40 last night.
    I suspect a 40-point win is a lot less meaningful to Pop than it is to you. A lot of guys saw action in a lot of different combinations, and we won. Everybody wins that way, not just a few stat-padders. For player and team development there is no subs ute for playing time.

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    Thanks for the short writeup, I am interested to see Ray and Boban get some more regular minutes. Was a bit dissapointed Boban didn't get a bit more time last night.

    But yea, Ray looked good.

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    Sublte manu suck..nothing to see here..I bet the op has made 10k threads subtly.trying to prop up.manu

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    McCallum reminds me of Corey Joesph
    me, too. Only better potential, I think. The kid is really exciting, imo.

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    I thought this was a good, early test, both for Pop and the team to asses what they have, depth-wise.

    Some thoughts:

    McCallum: he looks like he can play. He drove and finished strongly a couple times. His mid-range also looked good. He looked engaged whenever his number was called. He's still lost rotation-wise, etc, which is expected this early in the season, with few minutes under his belt and on a new team.

    Anderson: I thought he was overall ok, but he made terrible decisions on both ends. Either rushing his shot or incorrectly helping on D and leaving his man open. He's a guy that has had more run with the team, so I thought more was expected from him.

    Butler: He never stops hustling but he hasn't differentiated himself from Kyle yet, which is what could buy him more minutes. He finally got a 3 pointer to fall, hopefully that gets his confidence going.

    Simmons: On a night where everything looked like a jumper, he was one of the few that was able to penetrate and create for others. This Spurs team need more of this. I though his defense was good. IMO, he had a positive night overall.

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    On a side note, we should be pretty happy that Manu decided to come back. This team looks about twice as smart with it's decisions when he's out there. Hopefully his injury doesn't keep him out long. I also thought Boris should've closed the game instead of Anderson. Bobo is just the other natural playmaker we have out there, and also has a very positive effect on our offense.
    Boris had a very bad game, he was passive Boris here, the size of 76ers bigs gave him trouble and he wasn't shooting from the outside in this game. Despite what everyone says at this point, he should not be defending on the perimeter as a 3, so if you are suggesting bench Anderson for Boris, in my view that is a bad call.

    Disagree on Anderson. His helping in the paint was mostly to good results, since our bigs rotations were not necessarily on time and our guards quite a few times allowed dribble penetration. Most of the time he also recovered in time to contest a 3 without fouling. I do believe if Pop didn't like what he was doing on D, he would have been benched early like other games. Anderson also made a number of defensive plays, between steals and blocks. His length was giving trouble to anyone he guarded. He also rebounded like you would expect from a SF, didn't turn the ball over carelessly and mostly made smart plays. On top of that his 3s were falling in this game. He had a positive impact in whatever lineup he played so I think we will disagree on that.

    I liked Ray in this game too, and I have liked him since preseason. He's another guy that like Anderson, on another team would be playing more minutes. He has always been dedicated on defense, has a very quick trigger on his shot and is athletic. He is similar to Patty in that he's at his best looking for his own shot, but he can keep his dribble alive. He had a very good game.

    Butler's strength is precisely that he's a vet. He knows his game, stays within himself and doesn't make many mistakes. Obviously, unlike the other young guys, he has no upside. In games like this, where everyone has to do more and contribute to replace somewhat the contributions of other guys, he won't look particularly good because he is what he is, and nothing more. The younger guys luckily for us have more upside, and while prone to mistakes due to inexperience or what not, they are able to add other things that Butler does not. His lack of a shot currently is something to keep an eye on. He is continuing to let it fly with confidence. He has kept his effort on the defensive end and otherwise looks like a very solid pickup.

    Danny Green has looked for many games like crap. He's not confident in his shot, is hesitating to shoot, making bad decisions with the ball. In general, he looked more lost than all of the above guys, which is not good for a vet like him. Luckily, he's still dedicated on D, and you hope whatever is making him think too much b4 letting it fly is going to be over soon.

    Lamarcus had some open shots in good spots he missed. I think he deferred too much, which ended in other guys making plays that he should have taken for himself. It seems clear Pop is letting him play for now and not putting too much pressure on him.

    Patty had a rough game in this one. His shot wasn't falling and he had several sequences where he made bad decisions or forced stuff. Its obvious Manu enhances his game.

    Simmons was very good for few minutes. He played decent on D and made plays to be impactful in short minutes. If he could shoot the 3, I would like to see him more than Butler TBH, but with Manu, the second unit doesn't need penetrators but shooting. Cir stances have pushed Simms to the D'league, but it will help him to continue to work on his 3 pt shot and his dribbling skills under pressure. I am very encouraged by him though. Loved him in this game and I think in due time, him and Anderson could be a nice tandem for the bench with Patty or even Ray.
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    Elnono is always Baggin on Slomo.
    Some guys are always hating on Slowmo, and like him, I look forward to proving them wrong.

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    Boris had a very bad game, he was passive Boris here, the size of 76ers bigs gave him trouble and he wasn't shooting from the outside in this game. Despite what everyone says at this point, he should not be defending on the perimeter as a 3, so if you are suggesting bench Anderson for Boris, in my view that is a bad call.

    Disagree on Anderson. His helping in the paint was mostly to good results, since our bigs rotations were not necessarily on time and our guards quite a few times allowed dribble penetration. Most of the time he also recovered in time to contest a 3 without fouling. I do believe if Pop didn't like what he was doing on D, he would have been benched early like other games. Anderson also made a number of defensive plays, between steals and blocks. His length was giving trouble to anyone he guarded. He also rebounded like you would expect from a SF, didn't turn the ball over carelessly and mostly made smart plays. On top of that his 3s were falling in this game. He had a positive impact in whatever lineup he played so I think we will disagree on that.

    I liked Ray in this game too, and I have liked him since preseason. He's another guy that like Anderson, on another team would be playing more minutes. He has always been dedicated on defense, has a very quick trigger on his shot and is athletic. He is similar to Patty in that he's at his best looking for his own shot, but he can keep his dribble alive. He had a very good game.

    Butler's strength is precisely that he's a vet. He knows his game, stays within himself and doesn't make many mistakes. Obviously, unlike the other young guys, he has no upside. In games like this, where everyone has to do more and contribute to replace somewhat the contributions of other guys, he won't look particularly good because he is what he is, and nothing more. The younger guys luckily for us have more upside, and while prone to mistakes due to inexperience or what not, they are able to add other things that Butler does not. His lack of a shot currently is something to keep an eye on. He is continuing to let it fly with confidence. He has kept his effort on the defensive end and otherwise looks like a very solid pickup.

    Danny Green has looked for many games like crap. He's not confident in his shot, is hesitating to shoot, making bad decisions with the ball. In general, he looked more lost than all of the above guys, which is not good for a vet like him. Luckily, he's still dedicated on D, and you hope whatever is making him think too much b4 letting it fly is going to be over soon.

    Lamarcus had some open shots in good spots he missed. I think he deferred too much, which ended in other guys making plays that he should have taken for himself. It seems clear Pop is letting him play for now and not putting too much pressure on him.

    Patty had a rough game in this one. His shot wasn't falling and he had several sequences where he made bad decisions or forced stuff. Its obvious Manu enhances his game.

    Simmons was very good for few minutes. He played decent on D and made plays to be impactful in short minutes. If he could shoot the 3, I would like to see him more than Butler TBH, but with Manu, the second unit doesn't need penetrators but shooting. Cir stances have pushed Simms to the D'league, but it will help him to continue to work on his 3 pt shot and his dribbling skills under pressure. I am very encouraged by him though. Loved him in this game and I think in due time, him and Anderson could be a nice tandem for the bench with Patty or even Ray.
    Good writeup, even if we don't agree in some points, tbh... just wanted to point out that what I mentioned about Boris replacing Anderson was strictly in crunchtime, when we had all sorts of problems generating offense.

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    Fair enough. Maybe I'm just incorrectly expecting more from him. I actually stopped commenting on him pretty much since the season started to take a 2nd look. This was his first game where he had more minutes, that's why I wrote about him.
    Yeah but what you wrote was the opposite of what actually happened.

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    Yeah but what you wrote was the opposite of what actually happened.
    I wrote that overall I thought he did ok. He just made very specifics mistakes on both ends that I thought were flat out bad decisions. I stated I'm looking for Anderson the smart player, so that was disappointing to an extent... like I said, maybe I'm asking too much of a youngster and that's a fair criticism.

    They're specific cases. I think I still have the game recorded, I can give you quarter and time if you wanna look.

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    Expecting more out of Anderson in his second year than we expected from Cory in his second year does not make sense. Both were drafted very late in the 1st round as projects having barely turned 20. The need for Kyle to perform is greater than that of Cory in his second year because he is counted to provide meaningful bench minutes and be a part of the regular season rotation. Cory had no such expectations thrust on him. We should not hold our team's roster composition against Kyle.

    Overall , he had a very good game. If he can hit his wide open threes at a 40% clip, then along with his disruption effect on defense and ability to be a secondary or tertiary ball handler, he'll give us a lot of quality minutes in the regular season.

    Those who believe a second year player not yet 22 years old, drafted at no 30 can provide 15 mins of backup duty in the NBA Finals without hiccups are in denial of the truth.
    Well said . . . too bad you're way off base. Anderson played two years of college ball to Joseph's one and not that the latter was thought to be low IQ by any means, but his IQ certainly wasn't trumpeted in the way the former's has been.

    It's rare that I agree with ElNono, but unlike the majority of this overly sensitive board, I don't take our myriad disagreements personally and am willing to admit that I agree with his take on Anderson and McCallum.

    In certain match-ups (like the Mavs, for example, who have four PG's in their rotation), McCallum should be in the rotation ahead of Anderson/Butler.

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    Well said . . . too bad you're way off base. Anderson played two years of college ball to Joseph's one and not that the latter was thought to be low IQ by any means, but his IQ certainly wasn't trumpeted in the way the former's has been.

    It's rare that I agree with ElNono, but unlike the majority of this overly sensitive board, I don't take our myriad disagreements personally and am willing to admit that I agree with his take on Anderson and McCallum.

    In certain match-ups (like the Mavs, for example, who have four PG's in their rotation), McCallum should be in the rotation ahead of Anderson/Butler.
    I would not mind to see more Ray. Frankly there are times when Danny is hesitating to shoot way too much and making all these off the dribble plays, and that is not Danny's game. Ray on the other hand, is better than Danny off the dribble and can shoot from the midrange. His passing is not special, but neither is Danny's. In lineups against Portland where both Lillard and McCollum are quick combo guards on the small size, I would not mind Ray taking some minutes as a SG, if Danny is having a rough game.

    We'll see. I tend to think that Pop has been strict with the rotation to give the guys time to get a rhythm going and chemistry with each other, before he introduces other players.

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    Anderson's defense was horrible tbh. It was so bad at missing rotations that Porker started screaming at him for it after he left a 3 point shooter open.

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    Maybe I just want him to be something else. His speed is never going to get better, so I expect a much, much smarter player. Perhaps his inexperience doesn't allow him to be that right now, or perhaps he doesn't have it in him. It's true that's too early to answer that, so I can see how my comment might sound unfair.
    He IS a smart player. A very smart one. That doesn't have to mean that he can't have mental lapses. And his positives are more than just his intelligence. His length and skill level is well above average, and he constantly used both last night, especially defensively. You're not going to teach a guy to be 6-9, or even to have Anderson's anticipation. You CAN teach a guy to slow down () and pay more attention to detail.

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    PSA: Kyle Anderson is the same age or younger than 24 players taken in this summer's draft.

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    Tim Duncan blocked five shots in the team’s 92-83 win over the Philadelphia 76ers to become the franchise’s all-time leader in blocked shots. LaMarcus Aldridge cracked a couple jokes about Duncan: “I told him: ‘I only saw two.’ So I think he got some home cooking tonight because I only saw two blocks. I think the other three I had, and they gave it to him. So watch that film for sure.”

    I like the way LMA is fitting in with the Spurs straight faced but wise cracking at ude also. He is fitting in very well both on and off the court by the looks of it.

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    Spurs are a work in progress, but its good to see that other teams who are not the Warriors are as well. Spurs boast a good record and the wins in Boston and New York seem to have more quality than expected earlier. In general the East does not look like full of pushovers like last seasons.

    Regarding LMA, he sure seems to have more fun ... I guess the win in Portland was a booster in that regard. He rebounds like crazy, so his contribution is there. I just do not know why he does no occupy the left block more. Just shove Timmy away for gods sake

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    Yeah but what you wrote was the opposite of what actually happened.

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    He IS a smart player. A very smart one. That doesn't have to mean that he can't have mental lapses. And his positives are more than just his intelligence. His length and skill level is well above average, and he constantly used both last night, especially defensively. You're not going to teach a guy to be 6-9, or even to have Anderson's anticipation. You CAN teach a guy to slow down () and pay more attention to detail.
    I suppose I expected him to be further along, I guess... it's allright, it's still early in the season. I'll go back to not commenting on him until around the ASB and see where he's at. Some people took it as bashing on the guy, and he's a Spur, I want him to do great, tbh

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    Kyle isn't going to be consistent if his rotation and minutes are not either. He's a good player. We've seen flashes of what he can do, so the expectations are always going to be there when he checks in. It is all about confidence for Kyle right now. I bet its difficult not knowing when your going to play or how long you might play.

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    SI just do not know why he does no occupy the left block more. Just shove Timmy away for gods sake

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    Kyle isn't going to be consistent if his rotation and minutes are not either. He's a good player. We've seen flashes of what he can do, so the expectations are always going to be there when he checks in. It is all about confidence for Kyle right now. I bet its difficult not knowing when your going to play or how long you might play.
    It is difficult for any player to have a rhythm or chemistry if they are not playing. It is even more difficult if it is sufficiently early in the player's development stage that they are still "finding out what they can do at this level". It's not like he's a vet or a finished product. He is still in a developing stage and those kind of players are like Pop say going to be good one minute and bad the next. They have to play through mistakes, learn from it and adjust.

    In interviews he stated as much, both that he has not played with the starting crew even in practices, so he doesn't have much chemistry with the starting lineup or their sets, but also that he's rusty in general.

    Considering that, you can't expect more at this point.

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    Anderson's defense was horrible tbh. It was so bad at missing rotations that Porker started screaming at him for it after he left a 3 point shooter open.
    plays like your sig is why i will stop watching the nba in a couple of years.
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