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    Of course there is no risk-free process. Do you think there are already Daesh terrorists in the couple thousand Syrian refugees already here?

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    OMG...

    630,000 refugees in Jordan waiting to go elsewhere...

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/kyleblaine/h...-o#.qpD9BvWKlj
    They've been talking about the Jordanian refugee camps for over a year at this point, dip . Welcome to the present.

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    WC is likely to pass out if he finds out how many are in Turkey.

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    The U.S. has one of the most robust security screening processes in the world for potential refugees.

    Many European countries will accept a refugee application based simply on a case file. The U.S. system works much differently.

    Fewer than 2,000 Syrian refugees have been admitted to the United States since the start of the Syrian civil war. Though the Obama administration said the United States will accept 10,000 refugees in 2016, the complex process takes an average of 18 to 24 months.

    Many of those refugees who would be approved in 2016 are already going through the security-screening process and upon completion will enter the U.S. next year, according to a senior State Department official.

    Some have raised concerns this fall that even the level of security that the United States applies to the process is not sufficient enough to actually keep extremists from entering the country.
    Secretary John Kerry told Congress earlier this year that the plan was to engage in “super vetting, I mean an extraordinarily level of vetting.” He added that if the FBI wasn’t satisfied, he was “quite confident that people aren’t going to be allowed in.”

    To gain admittance into the United States, a Syrian must clear all these steps:
    Multiple high-level security checks
    Biometric screening
    A mandatory interview with the Department of Homeland Security
    A medical screening
    A cultural orientation program (which consists of videos on housing, employment, education, and hygiene, among other topics)

    Several of the checks remain current for only a certain period of time, but to qualify for entry into the United States, a potential refugee must have approved status for each step at the same time.

    For instance, the medical screening is valid for only six months, and most security checks expire after 15 months.

    In October, both Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and FBI Director James Comey raised the challenge of being unable to vet all Syrians against existing intelligence information.

    JOHNSON: Chairman, I am concerned that we do the proper security vetting for refugees we bring into this country. We’ve committed to 10,000, and I’ve committed that each one will receive a careful security vetting.

    It is true that we are not going to know a whole lot about a lot of the Syrians that come forth in this process, just given the nature of the situation. So we are doing better at checking all the right databases in the law enforcement and intelligence communities than we used to, and so it’s a good process and it’s a thorough process. But that definitely is a challenge.

    COMEY: I don’t think I have anything to add to Jeh. I think he describes it well. We see a risk there. We will work hard to mitigate it. Our challenge will be, as good as we have gotten ourselves at querying our holdings to understand somebody, if the person has never crossed our radar screen, there won’t be anything to query against, so we do see a risk there.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/kyleblaine/s...ees#.sxAmpKMQK

    That was tough

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    Congressmen Pressure GOP Leaders To Strip Funding For Syrian Refugees

    As numerous Republican governors announce that they will not accept Syrian refugees in their states, members of Congress have started to put pressure on Congressional leaders to restrict funds allocated for settling refugees from Syria from the government spending bill.

    Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) on Monday wrote a letter to his colleagues urging them to restrict President Obama's ability to increase funding allocated for settling refugees in the U.S.

    Sessions wants Congress to vote on Obama's plan to accept refugees, which is currently included in the funding bill that must pass in December.

    "In my capacity as Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration and the National Interest, I write to respectfully request that any upcoming appropriations legislation – including any Omnibus legislation – require Congressional approval for the President’s refugee resettlement plans and the funds to carry them out," Sessions wrote in the letter.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29

    Slave state Repugs want to screw the refugees that their War for Oil created, and obstruct Obama because he's Obama.


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    You're just now finding this out?
    I don't follow the news much. Most of what is on the boob tube us for boobs.

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    Ben ing Carson is a bigger danger to society than Syrian refugees.
    Lol

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    WC is likely to pass out if he finds out how many are in Turkey.
    Maybe so.

    I think we can thank Obama for helping to destabilize the area for that.

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    I think we can thank Obama for helping to destabilize the area for that.
    you're so full of . Your Repugs, BigOil broke the Middle East. Obama can't, nobody can stabilize it.

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    Maybe so.

    I think we can thank Obama for helping to destabilize the area for that.
    Really? No other American president helped to destabilize the area?

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    you're so full of . Your Repugs, BigOil broke the Middle East. Obama can't, nobody can stabilize it.
    Do you actually know what started the war in Syria?

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    Good. If Obama wants to play chicken with congress over this one he should try. I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of US voters including democrats would just as soon not import 100,000 Syrian Muslims. He probably couldn't even get a majority in his own party to defy the polls with an election coming and vote to keep importing Syrian Muslims.

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    Do you actually know what started the war in Syria?
    yes, a drought that drove farmers into the cities where the govt let them rot, until they revolted.

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    14 states (including one Democrat governor) want no Syrian refugees in their states.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rian-refugees/

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    I heard that the clockmaking industry is lobbying hard to bring in these hard working Syrians.

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    Of course there is no risk-free process. Do you think there are already Daesh terrorists in the couple thousand Syrian refugees already here?
    I don't know.

    I'm not calling for risk-free process. I realize that's not possible. But what exactly are the intelligence flaws or "gaps" in screening process? And moreover why should anyone have ANY optimism about what our leaders' intelligence says about the ME, when it's failed us over and over going all the way back to 9/11? I'm skeptical. But I'm a compassionate skeptic. So I'll go along with what they say. It's the right thing to do IMO. But you--you sound optimistic about it, and you can correct my if I'm wrong. Maybe I'm mi-reading you. But I just don't see as much reason as you to be optimistic about our intelligence relating to ME.
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    yes, a drought that drove farmers into the cities where the govt let them rot, until they revolted.
    Lol, yes, "climate change" started the war. Good job, Bernie.

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    Lol, yes, "climate change" started the war. Good job, Bernie.
    you said climate change, asshole, I didn't

    every time you make a post your laughable ignorance spews forth.

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    you said climate change, asshole, I didn't

    every time you make a post your laughable ignorance spews forth.
    It actually started over graffiti, if you can believe that.

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    I don't know.

    I'm not calling for risk-free process. I realize that's not possible. But what exactly are the intelligence flaws or "gaps" in screening process? And moreover why should anyone have ANY optimism about what our leaders' intelligence says about the ME, when it's failed us over and over going all the way back to 9/11? I'm skeptical. But I'm a compassionate skeptic. So I'll go along with what they say. It's the right thing to do IMO. But you--you sound optimistic about it, and you can correct my if I'm wrong. Maybe I'm mi-reading you. But I just don't see as much reason as you to be optimistic about our intelligence relating to ME.
    They're already here and the vetting process takes a lot longer than the EU's did. We have the luxury of time.

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    They're already here and the vetting process takes a lot longer than the EU's did. We have the luxury of time.
    Fast-track the women and kids. Let the young dudes wait.

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    Fast-track the women and kids. Let the young dudes wait.
    And the family does what for money once they are here/there? considering the usual breadwinner makeup of the families, that seems a little backwards to me. Now I agree that Europe is being overwhelmed as they didn't expect this kind of migration when making their rules, but the gender disparity at this point doesn't surprise me at all.

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    Fast-track the women and kids. Let the young dudes wait.
    Fast track:


    Fast track:

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    And the family does what for money once they are here/there? considering the usual breadwinner makeup of the families, that seems a little backwards to me. Now I agree that Europe is being overwhelmed as they didn't expect this kind of migration when making their rules, but the gender disparity at this point doesn't surprise me at all.

    "Women and children first" is more of a Western thing.

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    "Women and children first" is more of a Western thing.
    First into the rickety boat to cross the Mediterranean in November?

    Is that what you would do with your wife and kids, Darrin?

    That's your western thing?

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