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    Sarah Palin offers hilariously vague plan to stop ISIS: ‘Quit being namby-pamby’ and stop them!"




    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/sara...and-stop-them/


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    RISE THE PROLETARIAT!!!!

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    Well since hater is going for Russia that means we are a lock to beat them!

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    looks like Pandora's box has been opened. Bombing Syria won't do anything to ISIS. They can easily move operations between Lybia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

    Interestingly these are the 4 countries destabilized by the West...
    You say it's easy then we look at a map and think about the reality that is air and sea travel.

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    Well since hater is going for Russia that means we are a lock to beat them!
    Going for anyone that goes after the terrorists. IMO

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    You say it's easy then we look at a map and think about the reality that is air and sea travel.
    most of the armament and mercenaries arrived in Syria from Libya. Oh they can move about alright. How did they even get to Yemen, if Saudi allegedly has blockaded and established a "no fly zone" for months

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    Going for anyone that goes after the terrorists. IMO
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    most of the armament and mercenaries arrived in Syria from Libya. Oh they can move about alright. How did they even get to Yemen, if Saudi allegedly has blockaded and established a "no fly zone" for months
    They may have started there seeing that was the jihadi hotspot before Syria but there is a geographical reality.

    Syria is up on a plateau that you come off of to get into the Euphrates river valley. To the west is the mediterranean and again there is the reality of ship travel given the current environment. How many navies you think are in the eastern med?

    To the south is Damascus , the golan Heights then Israel. That leaves the north and Turkey. The fighters have been matriculating in through there for a long time but it has to be piecemeal and clandestine and now that the Turks are pissed and no longer cowed they are beginning to intercept a whole lot of and jihadis.

    They can communicate anywhere in the world but they cannot logistically run an empire like that with what they are up against.

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    You have at least a half dozen different countries supplying armaments and moving men between Syria/Iraq/Yemen/Lybia/Sudan/Afghanistan. You also have mass migrations of hundreds of thousands going every which way.

    Do you really think there is a central organization that can control all that movement? It's a cluster where no one nation knows all the movement that is going on and no one nation cares. Via air, water or land.

    there are rumors that Saudi and Qatar lease commercial airlines to move men around the countries. Again, it's a cluster . ISIS with their billions of dollars in their coffers can easily transit through that mess.

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    all ISIS gotta do is walk over the Turkish border and they can go anywhere in the world

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    You have at least a half dozen different countries supplying armaments and moving men between Syria/Iraq/Yemen/Lybia/Sudan/Afghanistan. You also have mass migrations of hundreds of thousands going every which way.

    Do you really think there is a central organization that can control all that movement? It's a cluster where no one nation knows all the movement that is going on and no one nation cares. Via air, water or land.

    there are rumors that Saudi and Qatar lease commercial airlines to move men around the countries. Again, it's a cluster . ISIS with their billions of dollars in their coffers can easily transit through that mess.
    Sure and I cannot even begin to imagine the logistical flow that would be required two geographically isolated locations like that. It would be like us and puerto rico I guess or something akin to that. If they need food supplies in Libya what are they going to do? Put 1000 different pallets and camel/dinghy them all out? Commercial flights and freighters are all going to be scoured over.

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    Sarah Palin offers hilariously vague plan to stop ISIS: ‘Quit being namby-pamby’ and stop them!"




    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/sara...and-stop-them/

    To think that RePugs supported her to the tune of Vice President in running.
    Can only imagine if McCain would have won, had to step down and Bimbo is running the country?

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    No, it will not.

    What I find somewhat ironic is that the Turks are protecting Turkoman minorities in Syria, much like what Russia says its interests are in Ukraine. Russia seems to find this motivation inconvenient when others do it.
    Turkey is unstable. The E man is trying to show off and deflecting deep political concerns. Putin does the same thing, you think he would understand Turkey is in a risk taking stage.

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    Turkey is unstable. The E man is trying to show off and deflecting deep political concerns. Putin does the same thing, you think he would understand Turkey is in a risk taking stage.
    Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
    Sadly more true than one might care to admit.

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    Sure and I cannot even begin to imagine the logistical flow that would be required two geographically isolated locations like that. It would be like us and puerto rico I guess or something akin to that. If they need food supplies in Libya what are they going to do? Put 1000 different pallets and camel/dinghy them all out? Commercial flights and freighters are all going to be scoured over.
    Food supplies? I am sure ISIS can get food from the locals. No need to ship. The only thing they require shipping is men and weapons. That is already happening all over. Then you have the oil and drugs to supply each autonomous ISIS region with $$$.

    Not sure why u think shipment of men/weapons/oil and drugs is being controlled by NATO or some other country. That is not happning

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    Latest news: Turkey establishes base in Iraq and sends hundreds of men and dozens of tanks. US establishes air base in the northwest end of Syria. Just far enough from Russian s400 range. Iraq and Syria both protest US and Turkish boots on the ground in their territories. Iran starts escorting Russian bombers with their own aircraft.

    Something big is brewing.

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    Food supplies? I am sure ISIS can get food from the locals. No need to ship. The only thing they require shipping is men and weapons. That is already happening all over. Then you have the oil and drugs to supply each autonomous ISIS region with $$$.

    Not sure why u think shipment of men/weapons/oil and drugs is being controlled by NATO or some other country. That is not happning


    The Turks don't have control of their border. Still no link. So we can discount your stuff about organized convoys and train yards sanctioned by the Turks or with the goods going to their refineries/pipelines.

    while Putin is out visiting Syria to try and show people not to be afraid to travel, NATO has several divisions doing movements in Vilnius and up and down the Baltic coast. They sell tour packages that go from Warsaw to Vilnius to St Petersburg and on into Moscow. Doesn't take a week. You can sabre rattle for Russia all you like but this isn't the 1960s

    We're coordinating with the former Iron Curtain who want to remain free from Russian occupation. Russia would risk losing their capital to conventional warfare rather quickly if it comes to that. Would Putin nuke our troops do you think?

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    Stopped reading at turks don't have control of their border. Of course they do

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    "... the Russians have come up with an unknown technology that is capable of shutting down our aicraft, our ships our troops on the ground, they can knock out all communications. we have no idea what this is... this is a super weapon"

    "They used it when they first flew their first sortie, they announced 1 hour ahead of time for their sortie and then they shut down all the communications systems of the US and Israel. Aint nobody understand what happened."


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    Russia is in a really bad financial disaster with the world price of oil so low (will be worsened if Europe can get gas elsewhere), repeating the financial/industrial/military collapse of USSR in 1980s (St Ronnie didn't do ).

    Hyping Russia as some kind of world power threatening the oppressive, murderous American planetary empire is MIC propaganda to increase MIC sucking $100Bs more in taxpayer wealth.

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    black box found. things might get interesting....


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