Was Aldridge worth it, tbh?

[siraulo23]

interesting stats by nathan89 tbh ^

[Kawhitstorm]

I know this is going to sound weird, but I've noticed Dannys' shooting isn't the same this year. I'm not talking about % wise, I'm talking about his form and touch. It seems his form isn't as consistent as it's been in the past and his shot isn't as soft. Maybe the bandage on one of his shooting fingers has something to do with it? I don't know.

Maybe he's silently suffering like Batum was last season when he had a ty season playing in the same system he had success in previously while playing w/ none other than LMA. Maybe LMA was the curse that brought all those injuries upon the Blazers franchise: Roy, Oden, Wes (Batum got injured playing for France)

[Nathan89]

Cold streak (something he's been prone to in the past) + getting by far the largest contract of his career which possibly makes him think he needs to be doing more (or is getting in his head when it comes to expectation) seems fairly reasonable. Just as reasonable as the new system suddenly making him miss open looks that he's never had problems hitting in previous years.

The pressure of a big contract is a major reason why I think he is not doing well. I think him being willing to take less show a natural reluctance to such a large contract.

[Kawhitstorm]

Doug Collins explained the difference in systems during the Spurs' TNT game earlier in the year..he said Green would be making the biggest adjustment and suffering the most as a rhythm shooter by catching and shooting from completely different sets and looks(penetration and motion vs. post-up/mid-range action) than he has been accustomed to as the designated shooter on the team for the past 4 years..

Green's struggles would be worth it if Aldridge was doing anything of note, too, which is the point of the thread..

I heard the Doug Collins TV live but Danny has been so abominable that it would be difficult to pursued anyone that the system changing has turned him into Kirby status when it comes to shooting the ball.

[dabom]

The pressure of a big contract is a major reason why I think he is not doing well. I think him being willing to take less show a natural reluctance to such a large contract.

I was thinking this earlier too. He is trying to expand his game to justify his paycheck relative to the Spurs old contracts and not to the new cap raise.

[HarlemHeat37]

I heard the Doug Collins TV live but Danny has been so abominable that it would be difficult to pursued anyone that the system changing has turned him into Kirby status when it comes to shooting the ball.

Maybe, but I've never seen a player decline so badly in shooting, tbh, I don't really believe this is some Space Jam

[admiralsnackbar]

OP acts as though he's never watched an 82 game regular season. Crying time begins in March, if necessary.

[MaNu4Tres]

2015 3pt: 6ft wide open 2.3 attempts 52.5%, 4-6ft wide open 2.3 attempts 36.7%
2016 3pt: 6ft wide open 1.9 attempts 31.7%, 4-6ft wide open 2 attempts 22.2%

It's LMA's fault

I don't know what the is up with his mid-range pull ups this year. The guy drifts towards the basket and throws up a shot put floater w/ two hands-- which he shoots with the bottom of his palm.....

If he just would go straight up and down and use all wrist that shot would be significantly easier.

That two handed drifting floater/midrange pull up is beyond tilting

[HarlemHeat37]

OP acts as though he's never watched an 82 game regular season. Crying time begins in March, if necessary.

Ugh, I'm always one of the anti-meltdown posters..I was one of the only posters on ST that was still confident they would win the West in 2013 and 2014 when 95% of the forum was crying about losing to the other "contenders" and overrating them..on the opposite side, I also made a thread saying they would lose to the Clippers in 7, last year..it's pretty obvious when the Spurs are coasting or "figuring it out" IMO..

This is genuine concern and a real thing to worry about..this team has major problems that are going to be difficult to solve..

[admiralsnackbar]

Maybe, but I've never seen a player decline so badly in shooting, tbh, I don't really believe this is some Space Jam

Rotations are off, so shooting has followed. LDN sucked when he first joined the Spurs, and he sucks again now that the Spurs are a new team. Why do you believe it's a permanent condition?

[Kawhitstorm]

Maybe, but I've never seen a player decline so badly in shooting, tbh, I don't really believe this is some Space Jam

I'm just chalking it up to some type of injury or one of the worst slumps in recent memory. At this point, Pop might as well start Simmons/Kyle & bring him off the bench since they move the ball better than the starters then reinsert him once he breaks out of his slump. Something needs to be done to break his slump & playing w/ the starters isn't doing it since he insists on dribble penetrating.

[admiralsnackbar]

Ugh, I'm always one of the anti-meltdown posters..I was one of the only posters on ST that was still confident they would win the West in 2013 and 2014 when 95% of the forum was crying about losing to the other "contenders" and overrating them..on the opposite side, I also made a thread saying they would lose to the Clippers in 7, last year..it's pretty obvious when the Spurs are coasting or "figuring it out" IMO.. This is genuine concern and a real thing to worry about..this team has major problems that are going to be difficult to solve..

Why?

[dabom]

Ugh, I'm always one of the anti-meltdown posters..I was one of the only posters on ST that was still confident they would win the West in 2013 and 2014 when 95% of the forum was crying about losing to the other "contenders" and overrating them..on the opposite side, I also made a thread saying they would lose to the Clippers in 7, last year..it's pretty obvious when the Spurs are coasting or "figuring it out" IMO..

This is genuine concern and a real thing to worry about..this team has major problems that are going to be difficult to solve..

I also said the Spurs were going to lose with Tony playing a huge role and average minutes. Not that hard to see. Are you saying the Spurs are going to lose the playoffs this early in the season?

[dabom]

This is a meltdown thread tbh. The Spurs FO is one of the greatest in all sports. Really hard to bet against that when LMA has not been the problem.

[Nathan89]

LMA really needs an athletic pg who can drive and hit threes like Lillard to really work well in the offense. If he's going to provide some space then you need other players to benefit at the rim and beyond the arc.

[SpursFan86]

I mean I'm not saying there should be no concerns at all, but this seems pretty meltdown-ish tbh. Do you really think/expect both Aldridge and Green will continue this way for the rest of the season?

If things are still looking like this in February, fine. But we're hardly into December at this point and it's not like we've looked that bad (even considering the easy schedule).

[-21-]

Slightly off-topic but Pop needs to get back to shouting at Green. He was at his best when he was Pop's whipping boy. Pop obviously knows Danny is struggling (giving some of his minutes to Simmons/Anderson) but it seems like he's okay with Danny dribbling the ball and making bad decisions. Did Pop give him the green light to do this?

[HarlemHeat37]

Why?

- They're attempting to integrate a high-usage player(Aldridge) into a completely different system than he's accustomed to, while simultaneously utilizing his star-level qualities and abilities..currently, he has fit in well as a hybrid role player that has barely shown flashes of being able to dominate, which is fine, but it's not why they acquired him..

I'm not giving up on him, at all, I've been saying that I don't expect the Spurs to get it together until February, but it's not a task that has a lot of successful precedents in the history of the league, especially a team with the Spurs' style of play..generally speaking, adding a player of that caliber to a team like the Spurs is either going to: 1-fail 2-minimize that player's contributions

- They're still relying on 2 ancient players(Parker/Ginobili) to do heavy lifting as the ball-handlers/penetrators/creators, even as early as November..Parker was great last November, Ginobili had his best month in years last December, neither of them had anything left later in the season

- Green becoming a scrub, obviously, leaving questionable perimeter depth, and only 1 shooter on the team(also streaky)..it's certainly possible that he gets it together, but this cold streak is long enough to begin worrying

- Style of play that hasn't won in the NBA since the Lakers of 2010

[HarlemHeat37]

I also said the Spurs were going to lose with Tony playing a huge role and average minutes. Not that hard to see. Are you saying the Spurs are going to lose the playoffs this early in the season?

The compe ion is relatively weak, so even if nothing changes, the Spurs could still potentially get to the WCFs IMO..Warriors are way too good, though..

[dabom]

The compe ion is relatively weak, so even if nothing changes, the Spurs could still potentially get to the WCFs IMO..Warriors are way too good, though..

I think the Warriors cool off later in the season but still end up with the first seed. Spurs ramp it up after the Rodeo Road trip and beat everyone for a tough Finals vs the cavs.

[HarlemHeat37]

This thread is about Danny Green becoming ty, btw, not about the team overall..

I was at the game tonight, I've been going to Spurs-Raps games for years, the Spurs always struggle in Toronto, the loss itself is irrelevant..

[Kawhitstorm]

This is a meltdown thread tbh. The Spurs FO is one of the greatest in all sports. Really hard to bet against that when LMA has not been the problem.

It's too early in the season, the Cavs were playing like ass at this point last season. LeBron was struggling & had to take a midseason vacation; it also took Love 2/3 of the season before he got comfortable playing his role.

[dabom]

It's too early in the season, the Cavs were playing like ass at this point last season. LeBron was struggling & had to take a midseason vacation; it also took Love 2/3 of the season before he got comfortable playing his role.

[Kawhitstorm]

LMA really needs an athletic pg who can drive and hit threes like Lillard to really work well in the offense. If he's going to provide some space then you need other players to benefit at the rim and beyond the arc.

Pop could easily do that by running PnPs w/ Kawhi/LMA.

[dabom]

This thread is about Danny Green becoming ty, btw, not about the team overall..

I was at the game tonight, I've been going to Spurs-Raps games for years, the Spurs always struggle in Toronto, the loss itself is irrelevant..

I don't doubt danny is ty at this point. But to attribute it to LMA is stretching it considering danny is getting his looks and space.