Nah. People bump those threads of the re ed thing from time to time and you didn't post a word about it.
No.So you can shut up about that.
Those 3 games gave us a ring. If he would not have played at that high level on both ends against the best player of the world in those days, we would not have won the series.
Kawhi has been amazing in his playoffs career and it hurts you. Also, that FMVP and DPOY, and the figurative MVP race, top PER, top RPM, top def ratings, having historical season...are killing you.Kawhi isn't consistent in the playoffs and it hurts you.
Hypotheticals lol, didn't expect any different. Fact is Parker led the team in scoring and assists thoughout the playoffs that year. Truth is that it was a team effort, not a one man show like you and others think it was. Kawhi being the go to guy led to a first round bye last year that's why Pop is trying not to be so reliant on him.
It's not killing me lmao, just a couple of days ago before the aunt er returned I was talking with Kawhitstorm about what Kawhi needs to do to win MVP this year. He's a good regular season player.Kawhi has been amazing in his playoffs career and it hurts you. Also, that FMVP and DPOY, and the figurative MVP race, top PER, top RPM, top def ratings, having historical season...are killing you.
I have a krew? So anyone that calls those clowns out is a part of some crew now? I'm not part of any crew, I show no hate for any member of the team.
Not exactly sure how I can be a hypocrite. The parker haters get a ton of heat on here the kawhi haters not so much. I'm just going by what I've observed. If I saw you coming down hard on both crews and greatcuck really getting ripped apart by you or others I'll stop. And I've called out apo for wishing injury on parker before and
I've mentioned the whole hating your own players doesn't make sense to me.
Let me ask you this.
If the parker haters were banned, gone and the parker hate completely stopped. Do you think tgy, kbl, superc*nt would cease in their kawhi hate? Would tgy change its avi and become a normal poster?
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tbf if Kawhi is playing great odds are the series doesn't go 7 games. If Kawhi was as great in games 1 and 2 as he was in 3-5 for the Finals the Spurs sweep the Heat and they're probably all blowout games. Also last season was really the first time he was given more of an offensive role and people didn't think he could become a consistent #1 option but he's showing this season that he can. Still the entire team needs to play well for a successful playoff run, Kawhi alone can't win us another championship, and even the leading scorer will have games where they aren't at their best, it happens.
Agreed. Spurs are controlling Kawhi's FGA just enough to where his efficiency is the best it could be, any more than that and his defense same as his fg% 3% will slip.
Game 7 against the Clips is a perfect example of why Pop needs to get the new additions more involved in the offense. Duncan (as always), Parker, Green had great games and would've been enough to beat LAC if Kawhi had showed up. He's not playoff consistent yet, but luckily this year's team is stacked enough to where different guys can lead the team in scoring.
Fact is Parker looks so bad in the WCF and Finals cause his injuries...Thank God for Kawhi.
Kawhi was the best player, along with Tim, in the first 4 games of the series.Kawhi being the go to guy led to a first round bye last year that's why Pop is trying not to be so reliant on him.
It would have been nice to see other guys playing at that level, or Pop facilitating his offense and exploiting his favorable matchups against Crawford and Rivers, instead of our starter PG running inefficient pick and rolls...
And Pop and Parker are doing the same thing this season, not only ignoring Kawhi's mistaches, also LMA's. Kawhi was guarded by Harden, Neto, Sessions, many small defenders and Parker ignoring it, like he has ignored Jones, Dudley on LMA...sadly the list is extensive.
Before or after calling him re ed, the worst FMVP in the NBA history, role player, like in this thread? You should admit that Kawhi's MVP level is killing you...I was talking with Kawhitstorm about what Kawhi needs to do to win MVP this year.
Just good?He's a good regular season player.
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He has played better in the playoffs than the regular season every season he's been here. The rest I agree with, they really need to find a way to get Danny going. Danny making his open 3s is vital, especially in the playoffs when teams will focus on stopping Kawhi and LMA.
That wasn't enough.. this team can't win without him. Game 7 is a perfect example, like the game in Toronto this season.
If you don't have Kawhi involved and playing his best on both ends, the Spurs won't win. It's as simple as that.
Wish it was because LMA came alive all of sudden
IMO, it makes sense teams would focus more on getting the ball out of his hands after having an MVP caliber month. And him passing out of double teams to open teammates is always the right play. As a team, 'pick your poison' is always what you want.
Kawhi learning how to handle and beat double teams finding the open guy is always a great thing.
The issue is how the Spurs play him when he has a favorable matchup or when he's open, what type of plays they call for him, how many times in a game they do it, and how many times he gets the ball when he's open...
Even if he's one of the most efficient post-up players in the league, Pop should help to diversify his offense, set screens for his shots, let him run some PnR with the 2nd unit, just facilitate his offense instead of taking and making tough shots every night.
Last edited by YGWHI; 12-29-2015 at 08:36 PM.
The "vanilla" opinion is thinking this has something to do with Parker/Teammates "freezing" Leonard out. As I stated in another thread, Kawhi has been taking a more active role in setting up the offense and becoming more of a playmaker. Kawhi is averaging .6 more assists in December. Furthermore, Kawhi averages 3.1 dimes in wins and 1.8 assists in losses. The Spurs aren't stupid. They know Kawhi being established as a passing threat will make him and the overall offense much harder to defend.
Fans who want Kawhi forcefed are re ed.
Mel said it in the 1st page. Also as others have said, the Spurs had a great december -----> blowouts -----> less mpg (-3)
Not sure if to feed-force a player is always a re ed thing.
Sometimes teams need to develop a player and play him during diverse real-game situations, other times they have a player who needs to adapt to a new system...we could see the Spurs doing it with Kawhi last season, and with LMA in the first quarters of many games this season.
But instead of force-feed a player, it would be nice to watch the team exploit every matchup Kawhi/LMA have advantage.
It can't be good for the Spurs looking how Kawhi throw his arms in the air asking for the ball and return to defend being visibly frustrated 'cause nobody passes him...Being a guy who rarely shows his emotions, he really must have thought that possession was an opportunity wasted for the team last night.
Agreed. But it's also a process.
Also no one asking to forcefeed kawhi, what should happen is for him to be given the opportunity to be the ballhandler in a 2man game with lma, or for someone to pass to him when he's clearly wide open. He gets ignored for long stretches almost every game.
For whole quarters. In fact, he didn't even shoot in the 2nd quarters of last two games.He gets ignored for long stretches almost every game.
I do.
I said both sides should stop.
You never have once.
Ever.
Hypocrite.
Kawhi's usage is 24.5, about 4 points below KD. I think that's a balanced number considering how many scorers the Spurs have on the team (LMA, Tony, Manu, and TD can all create).
The numbers say it's been very good for the Spurs.
I've long stated that excessively feeding wings in the post is a recipe for disaster in the modern NBA. Defenses are too fast now. Kawhi is probably the worst penetrator of the elite SF/Wing players in the league (LBJ, KD, Harden, etc), so it's no mystery why his usage is below some of the more marquee wing players in the league. Kawhi doesn't, as of yet, excel in clear out iso-situations like the ones traditionally ran for Ginobili (and Lebron and Harden, etc). He's starting to add this his game, so we might see more of these sets called, but he's still not there yet.
You have remember that Leonard was a very subpar offensive player coming out of college. KD, Lebron, etc were near-elite offensive players their rookie years. Leonard isn't yet on their level offensively. Also, this is his first year being the focus of an offense. To task him with 28-30% usage would do more harm than good to his development.
In the re ed thing threads? You didn't.
Prove it.
Not sure, he has really good numbers for isos, isos-posts...
However, building his offense just on isos situations isn't the best thing. Like I've said before, it would be nice to see the Spurs facilitating his offense, set more screens for his shots, diversify his offense instead of calling everytime an iso post-up for him, even if he excels as top #4 in the league in those situations.
Agree. And the fact he doesn't even shoot for whole quarters in the last games can't help to develop him.Leonard isn't yet on their level offensively.
lol moving the goalposts
Not really...#76
"Nah. People bump those threads of the re ed thing from time to time and you didn't post a word about it."
I don't care about other Kawhi hate threads, but I don't like/understand others justifying the re ed kid insult.
I'm talking about iso-clear outs that create a one-on-one dribble-drive situation. Check out Leonard's stats on drives last season. They're average at best (he's improved this year, but he still doesn't get to the line enough for some reason).
The offense generates a lot of open 3 point looks for Leonard. But yeah, I would like to see the two man game between LMA and Leonard used more. Other than that, I don't think the Spurs are under-utilizing Kawhi. He's only averaging 2 less touches per game than KD.
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