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    The marriage to Aisha was political in nature, to strengthen the tie between Muhammad and Abu Bakr. Her age has been said to be around 13-15 years contrary to the 6-9 age suggested by some. In any case, it's ridiculous to criticize the traditions of a completely different time and culture based on our modern lense. This marriage is probably what allowed Abu Bakr to become the first Caliph.

    Aisha turned out to be a major figure in the promotion of Islam even after Muhammad's death. There's no indication she was sexually and psychologically abused as a child as Ali Sina and others would like to suggest.

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    This is what confuses people about Muhammad... he was a Prophet, teacher, preacher, religious figure... but also had to deal with political and military situations due to the advent of the early Islamic State. There are some controversial aspects to some of the decisions he made, such as the fate of the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza, and he did have some aggressive caravan raids (therefore not all Muslim actions were defensive), but such is the case with pretty much any political figure. Relatively speaking though, he was a very merciful man and was genuine in his message. It's nonsense when people assert he's a maniacal narcissist, when he was considered honest and trustworthy by pretty much everyone even before prophethood.. and in the 8 years of military campaigns casualties hovered around 1000 (low for the standards of Arab warfare of the time), and he modified the rules of warfare for the better.

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    This is what confuses people about Muhammad... he was a Prophet, teacher, preacher, religious figure... but also had to deal with political and military situations due to the advent of the early Islamic State. There are some controversial aspects to some of the decisions he made, such as the fate of the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza, and he did have some aggressive caravan raids (therefore not all Muslim actions were defensive), but such is the case with pretty much any political figure. Relatively speaking though, he was a very merciful man and was genuine in his message. It's nonsense when people assert he's a maniacal narcissist, when he was considered honest and trustworthy by pretty much everyone even before prophethood.. and in the 8 years of military campaigns casualties hovered around 1000 (low for the standards of Arab warfare of the time), and he modified the rules of warfare for the better.
    How many people did Jesus kill?

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    whereas Christians are hypocrites and just pick and choose.
    Religion of peace

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    Religion of peace

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    How many people did Jesus kill?
    Considering that Jesus and God are the same deity, by only using numbers that are provided in the Bible: He killed 2,821,364. That doesn't include killing every single person except for Noah and his family. He also sentences people to an eternity of torture, which is by definition infinitely worst than death.

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    This is what confuses people about Muhammad... he was a Prophet, teacher, preacher, religious figure... but also had to deal with political and military situations due to the advent of the early Islamic State. There are some controversial aspects to some of the decisions he made, such as the fate of the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza, and he did have some aggressive caravan raids (therefore not all Muslim actions were defensive), but such is the case with pretty much any political figure. Relatively speaking though, he was a very merciful man and was genuine in his message. It's nonsense when people assert he's a maniacal narcissist, when he was considered honest and trustworthy by pretty much everyone even before prophethood.. and in the 8 years of military campaigns casualties hovered around 1000 (low for the standards of Arab warfare of the time), and he modified the rules of warfare for the better.
    Okay, this is nonsense right here. Outside the Quran, there is little significant evidence that specifically the man Muhammad existed, let a lone that he was honest, trustworthy and merciful. You are talking out of your ass.

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    Okay, this is nonsense right here. Outside the Quran, there is little significant evidence that specifically the man Muhammad existed, let a lone that he was honest, trustworthy and merciful. You are talking out of your ass.
    He likes the view.

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    There is little evidence Muhammad existed? lol wtd

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    Considering that Jesus and God are the same deity, by only using numbers that are provided in the Bible: He killed 2,821,364. That doesn't include killing every single person except for Noah and his family. He also sentences people to an eternity of torture, which is by definition infinitely worst than death.
    So God killed 2,822,364 people???

    How many has man?

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    Saudi Arabia just executed 47 people, most of them Shi'ites. What say you?

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    So God killed 2,822,364 people???

    How many has man?
    We're talking about one god though, not every god.

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    We're talking about one god though, not every god.
    what's God's K/d ratio vs. Allah's vs. Yahweh?

    $90 on Allah to cover -6

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    We're talking about one god though, not every god.
    Just answer the question

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    Just answer the question
    Which god?

    Which man?

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    Honesty I used to think Islam was a primitive teligion with violent elements but Ive done a ton of research on the Quran and Muhammad and the Arab history of the time, as well as the meaning and context of Quranic verses (Tafsir) and no longer think thats the case. The brand of Islam DAESH and other terrorist groups promote and West media tries to portray as face of Islam isnt Islamic at all, nor are its fundamentals grounded in the Quran. It is political proxy army of bandits and thugs who dont know a thing about the Noble Quran. I will admit the Quran is difficult to grasp without research, so its understandable why some verses promote misconceptions.

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    Saudi Arabia just executed 47 people, most of them Shi'ites. What say you?
    Saudis are trash. Wahhabism is a perverted and maniacal form of Islam. Saudis and ISIS and Al Quada and Boko Haram have this Wahhabism philosophy in common.. it isnt Islam thoughz

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    How come the World Cup is being held in the Middle East?
    Bribery?

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    Honesty I used to think Islam was a primitive teligion with violent elements but Ive done a ton of research on the Quran and Muhammad and the Arab history of the time, as well as the meaning and context of Quranic verses (Tafsir) and no longer think thats the case. The brand of Islam DAESH and other terrorist groups promote and West media tries to portray as face of Islam isnt Islamic at all, nor are its fundamentals grounded in the Quran. It is political proxy army of bandits and thugs who dont know a thing about the Noble Quran. I will admit the Quran is difficult to grasp without research, so its understandable why some verses promote misconceptions.
    You know..o...about any of this if you really believe that.

    Are you saying that Mohammad wasn't a murderer who had people he couldn't covert beheaded, well?

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    I see the old bas has made his way up to the NBA forum.

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    what's God's K/d ratio vs. Allah's vs. Yahweh?

    $90 on Allah to cover -6
    They based on the same God. They are the same.

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    I see the old bas has made his way up to the NBA forum.
    Actually never find anything here that ever interests me, and too many like you. Yep, boring.

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    Saudis are trash. Wahhabism is a perverted and maniacal form of Islam. Saudis and ISIS and Al Quada and Boko Haram have this Wahhabism philosophy in common.. it isnt Islam thoughz
    Yet like a cancer they exist among the "pure" with nary a batted eyelash.

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    Which god?

    Which man?
    The God that killed 2.8M people

    And "man" in general.

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