Opponents in clutch situations have traped san antonio into PG/BIG only offense.

[apalisoc_9]

Arguing numbers when Kawhistrom was clealry talking about flow.

Omg.

[lilbthebasedgod]

We have a negative netrtg because we play our third stringers against their second and sometimes first string.

There is a concern however

[Kawhitstorm]

although I dont' like us taking long range jump shots at all in crunch time if we can get more efficient shots generally, I will take parker's 53% long range jumper if open.

This basically mean all hope hinges on Tony making mid-range shots, he bricked the lone mid-range shot that the Knicks gave him right before the game final possession. You have to diversity the offense b/c if Tony is cold then the team is going to sink w/ him.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

So name the other 4 best teams that the Spurs are worse than.

It's absolutely ing accurate. You can't argue with it, so you use emotes. You worthless taint-licking phony. Go start another dozen threads to distract from this ing debacle.

In clutch situations? Let's see:


GSW is better than us in the clutch because they are so dynamic and have so many good options and they're nigh impossible to beat at home because of that booming crowd noise.

CLE is better than us because they still have the most versatile and talented player in the game and they have another guy who is pretty darn good, too. It's basically the Heatles big 3 with a younger (though just as injury prone) star SG and a PF who's worse on defense but better on the glass and a better shooter.

OKC is better than us because they have 2 hydrogen bombs that are absolutely deadly and always tend to make the right decisions when they matter most. On the off chance they don't, they usually get lucky and/or get sucked off by the refs.

LAC is better than us because they have that pick-n-roll that they can spam every play near the end and it's unstoppable if Blake is making those free throw line jumpers. You can't sag off their shooters, can't give up the Jordan lob dunk, and Paul is a dead eye pull up shooter in the clutch as well. You pretty much have to hope Jordan catches the ball not in a position to dunk so you can foul him.

[houston spurs fan]

meaningless game in January and you guys are acting like we just lost a game 7. We not in the playoffs, we aren't even in the home stretch. These team will be totally different later on...not worried

[will_spurs]

I didn't like TP's play in the 4th tonight but GSH was on the money here with the MAIN issues. Explain your stance why he's not on point, here.

Apo's stance: any data that shows it's not Parker's fault is "useless", "inaccurate" and "lies".

[Obstructed_View]

I'm not surprised pop hasnt made any adjusment, its early in the season tbh. As you probably already know, the spurs are the poorest late game team out of maybe the top 5 teams.

It's really easy to watch a shot bounce out and go, "I knew that was going to happen."

[Obstructed_View]

In clutch situations? Let's see:


GSW is better than us in the clutch because they are so dynamic and have so many good options and they're nigh impossible to beat at home because of that booming crowd noise.

CLE is better than us because they still have the most versatile and talented player in the game and they have another guy who is pretty darn good, too. It's basically the Heatles big 3 with a younger (though just as injury prone) star SG and a PF who's worse on defense but better on the glass and a better shooter.

OKC is better than us because they have 2 hydrogen bombs that are absolutely deadly and always tend to make the right decisions when they matter most. On the off chance they don't, they usually get lucky and/or get sucked off by the refs.

LAC is better than us because they have that pick-n-roll that they can spam every play near the end and it's unstoppable if Blake is making those free throw line jumpers. You can't sag off their shooters, can't give up the Jordan lob dunk, and Paul is a dead eye pull up shooter in the clutch as well. You pretty much have to hope Jordan catches the ball not in a position to dunk so you can foul him.

Oh my god, this may be the funniest post I've ever read on this site. Nicely done.

[Boogie Munster]

Oh my god, this may be the funniest post I've ever read on this site. Nicely done.

"OKC is better than us because they have 2 hydrogen bombs that are absolutely deadly and always tend to make the right decisions when they matter most. On the off chance they don't, they usually get lucky and/or get sucked off by the refs.'

[Seventyniner]

Oh my god, this may be the funniest post I've ever read on this site. Nicely done.

The best part is that GSH just showed that the Spurs' issues in crunch time are mostly on defense, then that post goes on to mention offense only.

[Obstructed_View]

"OKC is better than us because they have 2 hydrogen bombs that are absolutely deadly and always tend to make the right decisions when they matter most. On the off chance they don't, they usually get lucky and/or get sucked off by the refs.'

I thought of Westbrook throwing up that shot that hit the top of the backboard with plenty of time left on the clock.

[spursfaninla]

I really appreciate that people are bringing meaningful takes with something more than "because I think so" as their reasoning, and also willing to do some work and compile data to support their argument.

but...but...but "flow."

"Flow" means nothing, unless you mean a motion offense. If that is what you mean, you should just say you want them to run more motion offense instead of pnr.

But just saying "flow" brings nothing. raise the bar.

[ChumpDumper]

which games do you think, besides this one, provide evidence to support you? I can watch any of this season's games, and would like to verify your claims. If true, I don't mind giving you credit.

Just name 2 or 3 games that support your argument, and I will confirm it was a 2 man big/pg offense the last 2 minutes.

the games should be close enough that the opponent was within reach, since the rest of the games likely did not have the starters, and it is not really crunch time if up 10+.

If you can't it would confirm my guess that you are just taking some general statistics about spurs sucking in crunch time, and some anecdotal observations, and are over-generalizing.

Dont quote me again you . I told you to stop quoting me. You are now on my ignore list. Go be a cheerleader and take your vanillla mainstream ass out of this thread.

lol meltdown

[Spurs_619]

If we don't give Kawhi and LMA the chance to close out games now they are going to crumble when we go to them come playoff time.

[spursfaninla]

absolutely agreed that kawhi and LA need to be our closers long term.

However, I don't think Kawhi has shown much proficiency with the 2 man game to date, mostly because Kawhi's relative weaknesses are 1)handles and 2) passing. Tough to have a diverse 2 man game with those weaknesses.

Also, pnr works best with a small and a big; kawhi and LA pnr is not going to be that effective since they can likely switch with small risk of mismatch.

Mostly what I see is iso play, putbacks, transition scoring, and 3pt shots coming from collapsing defense.

[TDfan2007]

Oh horse . The Spurs are NOT the "poorest late game team out of maybe the top 5 teams." It's just not true. I'm so ing sick of this talk about the Spurs' "clutch-time" play being so terrible. So you finally forced me to go to the numbers. So we're looking that the league's "clutch time" stats:

The Spurs have been in 13 "clutch" games. Tied with Golden State for the fewest. So for starters, they don't get into "clutch" situations much.

The Warriors have a 100% win percentage in clutch time. The Spurs win percentage in clutch time is 61.5% which is sixth, but basically it's a statistical tie for 2-6. In other words, the Spurs are as good in clutch time as anyone - except Golden State.
The Spurs FG% in clutch time is 45.0 which is third in the league. The Warriors are 10th in the league at 43.5%. Really? The Spurs clutch FG% is better than the Warriors?
The Spurs 3P percentage in clutch time has been a pathetic 23.5%, good for 22nd in the league. There's on problem.
The Spurs shoot an average of 2.5 free throws in clutch situations, which is tied for fourth worst in the league. There's another problem. Golden State takes an average of 5.2 free throws in clutch time - second best.

But you really only have to look at one thing to understand why the Warriors are better than everyone else in clutch time: DefRtg.
The Spurs DefRtg in clutch time is 112.1 which is among the worst in the league. Compare that to Golden State's DefRtg of 75.1 in clutch time, and you have your answer.

The Spurs' DefRtg is the best in the league, overall, at 93.6 - but in clutch time they have gotten torched. Golden State's DefRtg is third best overall, at 98.1 - but in clutch time, they have been successful in playing their very best defense. Bottom line, the Warriors have been able to ratchet up their defensive intensity in clutch situations. That's why they have 2 losses, and the Spurs have 6. If you want to speculate about why the Spurs haven't defended as well in crunch time, fire away. But stop with the ing "Tony Parker sucks" line of bull . You suck. End of story.

http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/...rt=W_PCT&dir=1

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