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Ronald Christ Reagan has spoken, this debate is over.
The president gets to pick, and a year out, I would think the president should get on with it. I would have said so, even if it had been Dubya in the position.
Yeah I'm sure if a lame duck Dubya would have had a chance to stack the court you would've been just fine with it.
In the long run the GOP is doomed on the national level anyway. I take the long view. It will not be Republicans picking SCOTUS nominees.
2016 is the last major national election that Texas will not be in play, and that changes a LOT of things.
Ronald Christ Reagan has spoken, this debate is over.
[Orrin] Hatch in 2004: "There are plenty of examples of confirmation of judges in Presidential election years"(sigh)Hatch on @FoxNews earlier tonight: "It would be wise for everybody to wait until the next president is chosen."
So, what's the alternative - one of the many lawyers who are running who majored in what? history? political science? Who lie, cheat and smooth talk their way to power? At least, he's got real, live business experience. And what's gonna get us out of this mess? Only jobs - that Trump's got more experience in than anyone in either field.
We were talking about the SC - not elections. I am voting for Trump who I hope will get the independents and disenfranchised democrats - not an unelectable like Cruz. Maybe you missed my post above where I clearly said that I'm putting aside my conservatism in exchange for jobs.
Sure. Keep thinking that.
Let's try a quick study in voting blocs, to see if your logic holds up to some minimal scrutiny.
You have a three person voting system. A, B, C.
A and C vote opposite on almost every vote.
Who really makes the decisions?
What the angry idiots on the right don't seem to grasp is that elections are won by pandering to the middle, which Cruz cannot, and will not do.
"A" will always vote for Democrats and "C" will always vote for Republicans. The low-info asshats in the middle pick, and Cruz is laughably unelectable for a national office on the basis that he is far too extremist, with easy sound bites and positions to paint him as a ravening lunatic.
You still think Texas is on the verge of turning blue? I assumed you learned something when you thought abortion Barbie was going to win only to see her get crushed.
conservatives believe they're going to win by pandering to the far right to get higher voter turnout among "group c", rather than trying to win over group b
Sure. Keep thinking that.
Let's try a quick study in voting blocs, to see if your logic holds up to some minimal scrutiny.
You have a three person voting system. A, B, C.
A and C vote opposite on almost every vote.
Who really makes the decisions?
What the angry idiots on the right don't seem to grasp is that elections are won by pandering to the middle, which Cruz cannot, and will not do.
"A" will always vote for Democrats and "C" will always vote for Republicans. The low-info asshats in the middle pick, and Cruz is laughably unelectable for a national office on the basis that he is far too extremist, with easy sound bites and positions to paint him as a ravening lunatic.
i doubt it ends well for them
I don't think anyone expects Obama to be able to nominate a liberal judge when the Democrats don't have the Senate. Though the Republicans will surely paint anyone to the left of Scalia as a socialist.
Yeah I'm sure if a lame duck Dubya would have had a chance to stack the court you would've been just fine with it.
And a Senate controlled by Democrats did exactly what he asked.
so basically everybody not named ted cruz?
Well I said earlier that Repubs are ing themselves if they pass on a moderate nominee. If Obama puts up a liberal then he's just playing politics also instead actually trying to fill the seat.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him nominate someone black, as the Democrats can use Republican opposition to mobilize a large black voter turnout. If Hillary gets the nomination and black voters show up the Democrats likely win the White House and will have a great chance to flip enough Senate seats to take it back too.
I hadn't thought of that but I could see Obama using that strategy. I don't see the GOP winning the WH regardless with the ty field they have, but yeah that could work to possibly get back the senate also.
The odds are extremely high that they're going to delay or reject whoever he nominates anyway, so why not swing for the fences?
Yep.
Keep putting people up and let em keep rejecting and delaying.
Then label it as the Republican way.
As a liberal, the more I think about this the more I hope the Repubs do obstruct. There's very little upside politically and huge risk. But more importantly, Obummer is going to name some smarmy, middle of the road, compromised, establishment shill who won't be a dependable vote. I've got the Dems at 80% chance of taking the WH. I'd rather Bernie or Shillary come in with a full mandate and get the furthest left wing, anti-gun, pro-choice, pro-voting rights, anti-1% (Bernie only), crazy ass liberal. The court has been right wing since Berger. We need a solid, young left wing to right the wrongs of the past 45 years.
Obstruct away, Repubs. You're playing with ing fire.
I wanna see Obama nominate himself with the proposition that Biden finishes his term out
He'll probably nominate some center right wing corporate shill house n!gger like Eric Holder just to see conservatives react insanely and call Holder a communist.
The more I think about it, the more I agree with baseline bum. You couldn't ask for a better opportunity to mobilize the black vote than nominating a far left wing black judge and daring the Republicans to obstruct his confirmation.
Republicans might not ever get the black vote, but they win elections when black people don't show up (which is why they dominate the midterms). They'd almost be forced to confirm a black nominee.
Obama could just throw Lynch back in there since she has been confirmed before.
Yeah, the Democratic party will love Obama for doing something like that. Either (1) the Republicans don't confirm him and the Dems can play the race card and get a strong showing from black voters to take the presidency and the senate or (2) get a judge who won't act any differently than the conservative judges other than abortion and all the social issue crap, and then tout how they put a progressive black judge in power who is going to pay their gas and mortgage.I wanna see Obama nominate himself with the proposition that Biden finishes his term out
He'll probably nominate some center right wing corporate shill house n!gger like Eric Holder just to see conservatives react insanely and call Holder a communist.
The whole Texas becoming a swing state talk is extremely premature at the very least, but I don't think abortion barbie's performance was an accurate reflection on how much red/blue Texas is. She was a horrible candidate who would probably struggle to win in a state that's solid blue.
A far left black judge wouldn't be optimal since it might turn off undecided white yuppie voters while still looking exactly the same to most black voters. Get the moderate appointment and the race card works with both blacks and yuppie+college whites if the Republicans obstruct.
Her campaign was the worst. It basically boiled down to, "Here's something Republicans said about me that you should be mad about."
To be fair, the two justices Obama picked have been fairly good on all issues, not just social issues. I still hate that spic Sotomayor for her Maurice Clarrett ruling when she was on the court of appeals, but Kagan has been solid.
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