2016 NBA Trade Deadline

[TheDoctor]

If a rumor don't come from Woj/The_Vertical I don't want to hear/read it tbh.

[spursistan]

i think our PG situation is better than last year, Mills was pretty bad last season as was Parker but this season both have been better, Parker in particular. Cojo was a luxury very few teams have competent 3 string PGs let alone above average one.

The lack of size at PG is an issue. They can't hide against the Warriors size.

I'm warming up for MCW trade..i think he is being put on a platter from what have been leaked to media..one or two of Simmons/Anderson/Ray + picks will do it..Let's face it we are in a win-now mode and in that particular matchup, it is suicide rolling with Patty/TP + the unknowns about Ginobili health status .

[SpursFan86]

We're not getting MCW

[gambit1990]

Danny meanwhile will run the offense with the starters

patty can do what tony can do. except better.

[Mel_13]

patty can do what tony can do. except better.

[tmtcsc]

It'd be a of a front court though. Guards are a dime a dozen but good bigs are hard to get a hold of. Easier to replace Danny than Timmy. The question is is it worth reducing our chances of ringing this year to set up our future. Pop and RC gotta make that call.

Hopefully Bud will pull a Minnesota Kevin McHale or Memphis Jerry West and give his old team great players for nothing.

Agreed.

[tmtcsc]

I can't wait for the Spurs to win their 6th le this year and shut up all the critics and G.S. blowhards. It's ridiculous how many people believe the Warriors can't be beat or that they are just so much better than the Spurs. All it took was one awful game by the Spurs on the Warriors' floor for people to jump ship. I trust the Spurs will have something special in store for Curry and Company. I just hope the Warriors stay healthy so we can beat them at full strength.

[Kawhitstorm]

i think our PG situation is better than last year, Mills was pretty bad last season as was Parker but this season both have been better, Parker in particular. Cojo was a luxury very few teams have competent 3 string PGs let alone above average one.

The lack of size at PG is an issue. They can't hide against the Warriors size.

Yeah, Porker hasn't been terrible & Patty is showing signs of life. CoJo actually had the ability to check Barnes in the post (as he showed in the 2013 series) meanwhile Porker/Patty can't even keep up with their own shadows against the Worriers.

sasaint is out here throwing the books on MCW when Simmons is taking minutes from Danny/Fathead while being a worse defender/ball handler & a hesitant shooter while getting WIDE OPEN looks unlike MCW. CoJo got by without having to shoot 3s & being a hesitant mid-range shooter so I don't see why MCW can't be effective as a 3rd string PG when he can actually postup unlike CoJo/Simmons. Even if he played limited minutes, his length would come in handy against Livingston who plays less that 20 minutes in the playoffs.

For in' sakes, the Cavs started Delly/Shumper/JR Smith & won 2 games. MCW would essentially play the Shumper role as a failed starting PG converted into a defensive stopper. Shumpert is basically Simmons with better handles/defensive awareness & dude got paid 40 mill playing the defensive stopper role. MCW is on his rookie contract so PATFO will have an entire season (2016-17) along with training camp & this season to evaluate him before he becomes a restricted FA.

[tmtcsc]

Horford can shoot from outside better than Aldridge.

The hits just keep on coming. You're on fire Chinook, keep em coming.

[bic50]

I can't wait for the Spurs to win their 6th le this year and shut up all the critics and G.S. blowhards. It's ridiculous how many people believe the Warriors can't be beat or that they are just so much better than the Spurs. All it took was one awful game by the Spurs on the Warriors' floor for people to jump ship. I trust the Spurs will have something special in store for Curry and Company. I just hope the Warriors stay healthy so we can beat them at full strength.

Exactly. It's like the spurs will never play the warriors again or something. What will people say if the spurs give warriors a similar beat down?

[tmtcsc]

Green has easily been the 3rd best player on the team since 2016 began, which is what was expected, since he was also the 3rd best player, last year..

Horford is obviously much better, but if you're left with an inexperienced player and poor defender like Simmons starting in the playoffs, you're ed, especially if Ginoboli can't play big minutes..

Leonard, Duncan, Aldridge and Parker have all been better than Green. Green's 3 pt shot has improved but I'm not convinced his defense has.

[Kawhitstorm]

The hits just keep on coming. You're on fire Chinook, keep em coming.

Horford has no postup game & struggles to create his own shot unless he's matched up w/ a slow footed big aka Harrison Barnes can guard him. Might as well get Marvin Williams for half the price.

[sasaint]

Pop ain't gonna bench Tony or Patty to play MCW or any other guy we bring in at the Deadline.

I share your concerns about the team going forward with Tony and Patty as our top 2 PGs, but do you honestly see anybody coming in at mid-season and becoming a real contributor in a system where we have waited until now for LMA to get up to speed? BTW, Tony can shoot the ball. He just is ball-dominant, lacks vision and is a less than stellar defender. But I do not see Pop moving him. Not sure what that means for us after this year, but it is worrisome.

[spursistan]

damn..could be a career-ending..

[spursistan]

[tmtcsc]

Even if he played limited minutes, his length would come in handy against Livingston who plays less that 20 minutes in the playoffs.

This guy worries me more than Curry and Thompson. You know exactly what you're going to get with them and they will attract the proper attention - but Livingston is a versatile player that exploits match-ups and brings good energy off the bench. In the first matchup with the Spurs, Livingston made an immediate impact and torched whoever tried to pick him up.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pop ain't gonna bench Tony or Patty to play MCW or any other guy we bring in at the Deadline.

I share your concerns about the team going forward with Tony and Patty as our top 2 PGs, but do you honestly see anybody coming in at mid-season and becoming a real contributor in a system where we have waited until now for LMA to get up to speed? BTW, Tony can shoot the ball. He just is ball-dominant, lacks vision and is a less than stellar defender. But I do not see Pop moving him. Not sure what that means for us after this year, but it is worrisome.

Pop benched Manu in the Clippers series so I don't see why Patty wouldn't get benched if he's unplayable against the Worriers just like Marco got benched against the Mavs in 2014 b/c he was unplayable. Porker is another story.

Baynes also got spot minutes in the 2014 playoffs despite having played sporadically in the regular season.

At the end of the day, if MCW doesn't prove himself to be worthy of getting minutes then he will be collecting DNPs like Austin Daye.

[TheDoctor]

Some reliable tidbits:

Woj mentions Spurs' Asst.GM Sean Marks as a candidate to fill Nets GM position along Ettore as a possible candidate for the HC job.

[tmtcsc]

Al's wife is a former Miss Universe.



Tony will help Green pack.

Geezus, I'll help him pack. Who said Horford doesn't have moves down low?

[sasaint]

Yeah, Porker hasn't been terrible & Patty is showing signs of life. CoJo actually had the ability to check Barnes in the post (as he showed in the 2013 series) meanwhile Porker/Patty can't even keep up with their own shadows against the Worriers.

sasaint is out here throwing the books on MCW when Simmons is taking minutes from Danny/Fathead while being a worse defender/ball handler & a hesitant shooter while getting WIDE OPEN looks unlike MCW. CoJo got by without having to shoot 3s & being a hesitant mid-range shooter so I don't see why MCW can't be effective as a 3rd string PG when he can actually postup unlike CoJo/Simmons. Even if he played limited minutes, his length would come in handy against Livingston who plays less that 20 minutes in the playoffs.

For in' sakes, the Cavs started Delly/Shumper/JR Smith & won 2 games. MCW would essentially play the Shumper role as a failed starting PG converted into a defensive stopper. Shumpert is basically Simmons with better handles/defensive awareness & dude got paid 40 mill playing the defensive stopper role. MCW is on his rookie contract so PATFO will have an entire season (2016-17) along with training camp & this season to evaluate him before he becomes a restricted FA.

What does "throwing the books on MCW" mean?

I don't see any of this having any real impact on our chances this season, anyway. MCW is not likely to progress in the Spurs system fast enough to help us against GS this year. Consequently, I would rather make a move at some point for a player who will be a real keeper - even a star. I don't know who that is. But posters here are getting all primed to make a move for Horford by moving some fairly substantial pieces. I would rather move those pieces for a combo guard with more upside than MCW.

[apalisoc_9]

Wow suns are delusional. They have zero bargaining power at this point with morris. Just get the best picks you dumbasses

[sasaint]

Pop benched Manu in the Clippers series so I don't see why Patty wouldn't get benched if he's unplayable against the Worriers just like Marco got benched against the Mavs in 2014 b/c he was unplayable. Porker is another story.

Baynes also got acquired mid-season & got minutes in the playoffs despite having only been in the NBA for only 4 months.

At the end of the day, if MCW doesn't prove himself to be worthy of getting minutes then he will be collecting DNPs.

Pop didn't bench Manu for somebody we brought in at the deadline.

[sasaint]

Mid-season acquisitions:

2011: Danny Green
2012: Stephen Jackson
2013: Baynes/T-Mac
2014: Daye
2015: JaMychal Green

2016 is more like 2013 since the team just needs to fortify a position (point guard) & pick up a vet (Kevin Martin?) from the waiver wire if Manu is going to be out for an extended period. (Waive/trade Bonner/Ray)

Tbh, although he has never been a great defender, Martin is more interesting to me than MCW. Maybe if he had a shot at a chip, Martin could D-up...

[DPG21920]

Wow suns are delusional. They have zero bargaining power at this point with morris. Just get the best picks you dumbasses

Morris is very, very good. Any deal they can get now they can get in the off season IMO.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pop didn't bench Manu for somebody we brought in at the deadline.

He got benched for net-negative Marco.
Maybe we should talk about Rasho getting benched for Nazr in the Finals no less.