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    About 300 Hertz IT employees, most located in Oklahoma City, are being impacted [by] a decision to expand its outsourcing to IBM. About 75 will be hired by IBM and those workers [are expected] to receive offers this week while others are facing layoffs. The news was a shock for IT employees. There was "anger, resentment," especially by employees who "sacrificed that work/life balance to keep things going here," said one employee. Hertz took precautions. On the day that IT employees learned that their work was shifting to IBM, employees noticed Oklahoma sheriff patrol vehicles in the building's parking lot. They believed plainclothes officers were inside the building.

    "We consider the safety and security of our people whenever there are cir stances or events that could increase the risk of a disturbance or some form of workplace violence," said Bill Masterson, a Hertz spokesman. "Knowing that this was a difficult announcement, we had additional security on hand," said Masterson. "Going forward, Hertz IT resources will be focused on development of future products and services for customers," he said. The majority of services will be cloud-based. According to the Computerworld article, along with severance pay, benefits also include three months of outplacement assistance. IT employees can receive up to $4,000 toward retraining or skill certification, said Masterson. IBM India Private Limited, a IBM subsidiary, has filed paper for H-1B visa workers for Hertz Technology offices.

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    India taking over the IT world tbh

    can't hate on them hustlers IMO. anyone can get a software product or game developed for about $99 in India

    ing amazing . and they are skilled too, way more skilled than average american IT worker

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    India taking over the IT world tbh

    can't hate on them hustlers IMO. anyone can get a software product or game developed for about $99 in India

    ing amazing . and they are skilled too, way more skilled than average american IT worker
    Taking over yes, more skilled absolutely not. They're like automaton, if you don't specify exactly what you want, you get back. They are inept at turning a business requirement into a piece of software without an explicit design being handed to them. Besides being a 3rd world shthole, there's a reason I can hire 4 Indians for the price of 1 westerner. My team has 4 architects and 25 devs/QA. All the architects are westerners, the rest are Indians in Bangalore.

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    Taking over yes, more skilled absolutely not. They're like automaton, if you don't specify exactly what you want, you get back. They are inept at turning a business requirement into a piece of software without an explicit design being handed to them. Besides being a 3rd world shthole, there's a reason I can hire 4 Indians for the price of 1 westerner. My team has 4 architects and 25 devs/QA. All the architects are westerners, the rest are Indians in Bangalore.
    Yup. We've even been offered to take over various dumpster fire projects the dotheads ed up terribly. Some companies are actually bringing dev back in-house.

    The abuse/gaming of H1Bs under the premise there's no enough IT talent in the US is what's aggravating...

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    Interesting stereotyping by board progressives

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    The abuse/gaming of H1Bs under the premise there's no enough IT talent in the US is what's aggravating...
    It's a racket. We don't use them, we hire directly in Bangalore, but it's basically legalized slave labor.

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    It's a racket. We don't use them, we hire directly in Bangalore, but it's basically legalized slave labor.
    Slave labor?

    Get back to me when they give their employee 20 lashes after a performance review or lynch them for trying to leave the company.

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    Interesting stereotyping by board progressives
    What I was talking about (outsourced developers) is a small piece of the puzzle and in response to some dumbass claiming India was taking over global IT. I was just at our Silicon Valley office this week, we have tons of high-level managers that are US citizens but from India. My division President is Indian. But they are all either educated here or have post grad degrees from here.

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    It's a racket. We don't use them, we hire directly in Bangalore, but it's basically legalized slave labor.
    Yeah. It doesn't affect our company specifically (other than getting 10 phonecalls a week from Apu), but I feel for other professionals that have to make a living, pay taxes, etc here in the US, and not only are being ed in the ass by this, but they have to hear Mark Zucker pitch to congress that they can't find enough Americans to hire. Well, there it is, he can have those 270 Hertz guys.

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    Slave labor?

    Get back to me when they give their employee 20 lashes after a performance review or lynch them for trying to leave the company.
    Perhaps too strong a term but they're hired on H1Bs purely because they'll work for 1/2 the salary, take no benefits, and can basically be booted at anytime with no penalty to the employer

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    Taking over yes, more skilled absolutely not. They're like automaton, if you don't specify exactly what you want, you get back. They are inept at turning a business requirement into a piece of software without an explicit design being handed to them. Besides being a 3rd world shthole, there's a reason I can hire 4 Indians for the price of 1 westerner. My team has 4 architects and 25 devs/QA. All the architects are westerners, the rest are Indians in Bangalore.
    This. When you're working with people in Bangalore you need to spoon feed them step-by-step directions and make everything as specific as possible or they'll find a way to it up.

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    Slave labor?

    Get back to me when they give their employee 20 lashes after a performance review or lynch them for trying to leave the company.
    Bangalore is essentially one giant tech sweatshop though.

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    What I was talking about (outsourced developers) is a small piece of the puzzle and in response to some dumbass claiming India was taking over global IT. I was just at our Silicon Valley office this week, we have tons of high-level managers that are US citizens but from India. My division President is Indian. But they are all either educated here or have post grad degrees from here.
    Oh, that bigotry sounds much less hateful.

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    Oh, that bigotry sounds much less hateful.
    Are you really this dense , it's not some big secret that tech companies send their grunt work that requires the least skill to India. If the IT workers in India were really just as skilled as IT workers here then the tech company would ship everything over there.

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    Bangalore is essentially one giant tech sweatshop though.
    tiest place I've ever been. They have ing cows roaming in the middle of major streets. Building skyscrapers with wooden scaffolding and no safety harnesses for the "workers". And I'll be there again in 3 weeks

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    tiest place I've ever been. They have ing cows roaming in the middle of major streets. Building skyscrapers with wooden scaffolding and no safety harnesses for the "workers". And I'll be there again in 3 weeks
    Are the hookers good at least?

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    Are the hookers good at least?
    Oh I have absolutely no way of knowing, it's probably illegal considering how much they value their women, treat them as equal citizens, don't have a caste system, and don't have a gang rape problem.

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    Oh I have absolutely no way of knowing, it's probably illegal considering how much they value their women, treat them as equal citizens, don't have a caste system, and don't have a gang rape problem.
    Sounds like a Trump sound bite. But, so much less offensive from team blue.

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    Lmao of course Indians are more skilled than Americans. It's not even close

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    Lmao of course Indians are more skilled than Americans. It's not even close
    Jesus you are really stupid.

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    Jesus you are really stupid.
    You sound like a butthurt got tbqh

    I have been selling merchandise to IT nerds for the last decade and I see clearly that American IT nerds are some of the laziest gots in history. When something needs to be done, they call the Indian folks

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    Also when an Indian applies for a job here in the US, they usually get it no questions asked over dumb lazy Americans. It is what it is.

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    Interesting stereotyping by board progressives
    Good catch.

    The Indian kids born here are, IMO, quite innovative and dedicated. Brought up in "our" culture in good schools I love having this hard working family oriented group integrated into our country. I have met many in both the biological side, and the physical science side, that are quite good at what they do.

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    Good catch.

    The Indian kids born here are, IMO, quite innovative and dedicated. Brought up in "our" culture in good schools I love having this hard working family oriented group integrated into our country. I have met many in both the biological side, and the physical science side, that are quite good at what they do.
    So you're pretty much saying exactly what Splits said. It's not a racial thing but rather a geographical thing.

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