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I don't blame him.
Kids aren't around for practice and training in real sports like football and basketball. I'm not talking about press conferences and lmao
I don't blame him.
People are kidding themselves if they think none of Laroche's teammates complained about his kid always being around. Kenny Williams wouldn't have taken a stand on something everyone else was OK with just to be an asshole.
Professional athletes view their locker room as a place where you can say whatever you want, they don't want to have to filter everything they say to make it 14 year-old appropriate.
how annoying wouod it be to work with someone who brought their bratty kid with them to work every day?
but tradition!
People who bring photo albums of their kids pictures to work and expect me to look at them and pretend to give a are ing annoying, I can't imagine someone who actually brings his/her kid to work everyday while expecting his/her coworkers to entertain the kid
It's called humanity.
- "You have to love your children unselfishly. That is hard. But it is the only way."
- Barbara Bush
It's called narcissism. Just because you think your kid is the cutest little thing in the world doesn't mean your coworkers do. It's awkward when someone brings their family vacation photo album over to my desk at work expecting me to look through it picture by picture so they can get the gratification of someone else telling them their son/daughter is "so cute!".
Here you go ya little pansy
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/white-s...222000523.html
The clubhouse isn't a day care.
Maybe that's true, maybe it's planted propaganda, either way, this is just further proof of how ty the White Sox organization is and is run. Article talks about crawfishing on the agreement, castigates and lays inferred blame at the feet of the 14-year old distraction, etc.
They knew what they were getting when they signed him.
This wasn't a problem in Washington when they averaged 90+ wins and LaRoche averaged around 30 HR, 90 RBI with a top-6 MVP finish.
It's been going on for years, white sox knew it, agreed to it, and now they've created a huge controversy, turning player against player, player against coach, player against front office, and fans against the team or against a 14-YO boy and his devoted father.
Funny. Always seems to happen to ty organizations run by ty decision makers, employeeing ty players.
LaRoche certainly is a peculiar situation. But they knew it going in.
So in the end, the White Sox got an annoying bible thumping player batting .200 and his son off the team, while getting $13 million off the books.
White Sox win.
When the Adam LaRoche news broke last week — which, from now on, we will refer to as DrakeGhazi — the claim was made that the process was set in motion by Ken Williams. Chris Sale and Adam Eaton unambiguously claimed in the media that no player on the White Sox’ roster had a problem with Drake LaRoche. Adam LaRoche said, in his statement, that his only issue was with Ken Williams, strongly implying the same. Even Ken Williams — at least publicly — said that limiting and/or barring Drake LaRoche’s access, which led to Adam LaRoche’s retirement, was his call.
As I said when this story came out, it didn’t add up. Sale and Eaton’s talk of the clubhouse being unified and Williams’ nodding about the “bonding” of the clubhouse over all of this didn’t make sense. Rather, I and many others surmised, this was likely a situation in which White Sox players — maybe several of them — complained to Ken Williams about Drake LaRoche’s presence and Ken Williams (a) was doing their bidding in limiting/barring Drake LaRoche’ and (b) took the heat for it so there was not a clubhouse rift. Occam’s Razor suggested that this was the more likely situation, no matter what the official line was.
Occam’s Razor did not fail us. Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports:
. . . while the early evidence frames this as a Williams vs. LaRoche battle over clubhouse time for LaRoche’s son, multiple baseball officials with direct knowledge of the Adam LaRoche brouhaha told USA TODAY Sports a different tale.
Several players and staff members privately complained to White Sox management recently about the constant presence of LaRoche’s 14-year-old son, Drake, in the clubhouse
While one may be tempted to say this doesn’t much matter now because LaRoche is gone, the fact is that the behavior of all of the parties in the past few days makes this a pretty big deal.
There was a heated team meeting about this on Tuesday. A meeting Chris Sale said presented a White Sox team entirely on the same page regarding the LaRoches. So much so that a boycott of Wednesday’s spring training game was considered. In the following days Sale accused Ken Williams of lying when he said that players or coaches complained and he hung up the LaRoches’ jerseys in his locker. The team kept Drake LaRoche’s nameplate up on his locker in his memory. Yesterday Adam Eaton talked about how Drake LaRoche was a team leader, for crying out loud.
Now Sale and Eaton — and, one presumes, some other players for whom they were speaking — know that what they initially believed was not true. They now know that there was not unanimous acceptance of Drake LaRoche. At the very best the Sale-Eaton contingent have to be embarrassed at how far out on the limb they got on this, portraying clubhouse ambivalence as clubhouse unity. More concerning, however, is that the Sale-Eaton contingent may now feel as though their teammates lied to them. Either by voicing disingenuous support for the LaRoches while they secretly complained or by keeping silent and allowing that impression to be created.
There will be some tempted to play the role of savvy cynic and say “eh, Sale and Eaton probably knew others complained and were just being dramatic.” I think that’s pretty unlikely. To say the things they said and to act in the manner they did — remember, they were talking about boycotting a game over this — while knowing that others in the clubhouse didn’t agree with them would itself be an act of clubhouse dissension. They’d be publicly rubbing their teammates’ noses in the matter and passive-aggressively calling them out. That’s not something players would do lightly or easily. No, I believe they took the stance that they did because they truly believed they were in an us (players) against him (Ken Williams) situation. I believe that they believed that no uniformed White Sox personnel had an issue with Drake LaRoche. Remember, when Ken Williams privately suggested that to Sale, Sale accused him of lying.
They have now found out they were wrong. Moreover, I presume that they will soon find out who, exactly, complained about Drake LaRoche. They will find out whose complaints set the ball in motion for the retirement of one of their favorite teammates and whose silence led them to, quite frankly, take some pretty ridiculous public positions on the matter. And then they’ll have to spend the next six and a half months working, traveling and living with them.
That ought to be fun.
It finally comes out: Several White Sox players complained about Drake LaRoche
you're an idiot
Everything I said in that is factually true.
Edit: ! The article you posted above proves my very point.
Fact is, LaRoche was told something by management. It wasn't a secret to them. Management knew about Drake from the beginning. They OK'd it.
LaRoche had just one year remaining on the deal. He wasn't going to be brought back for a number of reasons, and was likely going to retire.
Whether or not support was unanimous, there was very vocal, and public support against the decision to no longer permit Drake.
Sale didn't lie. He went with the known truth. To him, the team's best player, what was done was a travesty. He accused the front office management of lying, saying they told players managers complained, and telling managers that players complained. This pits them against each other.
Now it comes out that factions of both likely voiced displeasure over the situation, leading to management to block Drake from the agreed upon access.
Why is this significant?
As I have said, a well run organization didn't have a problem with Drake, and Drake wasn't a distraction to it, the players, nor the team's goals.
But with the ty White Sox, a 14-YO and his father have an agreed upon deal backed out on, the FO places scattered blame, turning ire at multiple sources, something that now has player vs player, players vs coach, and players/coaches vs management, in a very public spectacle, and a needless spectacle.
Chemistry is likely ruined, players don't trust each other, their coaches, their management to follow through on what is said publicly, and for what?
To get a 14 year old out of the clubhouse one year early, in a season most expect the White Sox to be a bottom of the division to maybe .500. Ball club.
Future players now know all this. They know agreements aren't worth . They know children aren't very welcome, and while most aren't as extreme as LaRoche, many, if not most players include their kids, especially boys, in their work. And they know teammates either aren't truthful with each other, or that coaches aren't truthful with players, or both.
For one year. All that for one year.
Sure, it saves them 13 million, but if an embarrassed Sale leaves, or it costs them a great player who wants his son to be involved with the team as a batboy, or something, then it likely costs them more than they gain this year.
Overall, as I said, ty organization doing ty things organizationally.
Last edited by JMarkJohns; 03-20-2016 at 05:20 PM.
I agree with every part of this post.People who bring photo albums of their kids pictures to work and expect me to look at them and pretend to give a are ing annoying, I can't imagine someone who actually brings his/her kid to work everyday while expecting his/her coworkers to entertain the kid
What was wrong with his post?
I can't believe this story is still getting play, tbh
I'm not a baseball hater, but all these "unwritten rules" and principles that they have are pretty lame..dying sport that encourages dullness..
I miss the Bonds days, where I was actually a fan and interested in watching..
I can't believe this story is still getting play, tbh
I'm not a baseball hater, but all these "unwritten rules" and principles that they have are pretty lame..dying sport that encourages dullness..
I miss the Bonds days, where I was actually a fan and interested in watching..
so ing lame
so ing lame
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