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    Nope, just know that Parker (as was said above) is the most accomplished PG of his era by far. He's sent home countless other PGs for decades all the way back to Gary Payton, Marbury, Kidd, Fisher, Nash, Billups, Bibby, Iverson, Harris, Jason & Deron Williams to CP3, Westbrook, Lilliard, Conley, Curry, etc. in the modern era. He's knocked so many elite PGs out of the playoffs it's really not even funny at this point.
    Porker "knocked out" countless PGs while being a NET negative, Speedy Claxton is rolling over in his grave.

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    If Parker is traded it will be through a sign and trade deal for Conley.

    Grizzlies still have compe ive pieces and they wouldn't be able to replace Conley with a better piece than Parker in free agency.

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    if they give 20 M at Conley, Parker 14M is almost a steal
    No, it's not. One is a legit starting point guard. The other can't be relied on for more than 15-20 minutes.

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    No, it's not. One is a legit starting point guard. The other can't be relied on for more than 15-20 minutes.


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    Manu s are hilarious lmfao

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    Dude Smart and Noah are trash, dumpster-fire type of trash. To that level. TP's a better option and Noah can't stay healthy. He is Tiago's new coming.
    Trash? I don't think you know. And if Noah does get hurt that is why Ibeh is drafted and Boban is retained.

    don't be so short-sighted.

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    Nope, just know that Parker (as was said above) is the most accomplished PG of his era by far. He's sent home countless other PGs for decades all the way back to Gary Payton, Marbury, Kidd, Fisher, Nash, Billups, Bibby, Iverson, Harris, Jason & Deron Williams to CP3, Westbrook, Lilliard, Conley, Curry, etc. in the modern era. He's knocked so many elite PGs out of the playoffs it's really not even funny at this point.

    He's still valuable in the sense that the Spurs haven't lost a playoff series in the last 4 years where Parker led the team in scoring (6-0 over that stretch). I'm not saying he needs to lead the team in scoring again...I get we need to transition, but we all see what happens when your best offensive creator (by far) only gets 6-8 shots a game.
    Yup. Between about 2006 and 2012, TP was a top 4 PG along with CP3, Nash and DWill. Those 4 dominated that period, and TP regularly handed the others their heads in head-to-head matchups. Go back and watch some of those games and you'll see what we mean.

    As for now, he's clearly a spent force as a starter. He'd be ideal as 6th man, but clogs up the cap. Still, there's no way the Spurs will trade him - it's just not a Spursian thing to do - so let's hope we can snag a starting PG (like Conley, Teague or even Collison as a cheap option), or someone we can potentially make into a quality starting PG (liike MCW), from somewhere and move TP to the bench. Otherwise it will be a painful two years once we reach the playoffs.

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    Trash? I don't think you know. And if Noah does get hurt that is why Ibeh is drafted and Boban is retained.

    don't be so short-sighted.
    Ok. I should have said that Smart is not what the Spurs need right now. He's better than Kyle and a good defender but offensively he's too inconsistent and unreliable. Specifically from 3pt range which is arguably one of the Spurs needs right now and a "must fix" deficiency for next season.

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    I think Parker could be a killer in the second unit. He doesn't mesh well with Kawhi, but he could control the 2nd unit.

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    Ok. I should have said that Smart is not what the Spurs need right now. He's better than Kyle and a good defender but offensively he's too inconsistent and unreliable. Specifically from 3pt range which is arguably one of the Spurs needs right now and a "must fix" deficiency for next season.
    I think an athletic PG who can defend and rebound would help too. Maybe some work from the shot doctor would make him more consistent. Either way Smart is a scorer and get to the hoop and can finish strong. I wouldn't say he isn't what the Spurs need, but maybe exactly what they need? Some at ude and toughness.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=laIXeC2mk2k

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    Why would Boston trade Smart to us? They love him.

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    Why would Boston trade Smart to us? They love him.
    Do they?

    Because they have Isaiah Thomas as the starter. Avery Bradley on the bench. And drafted Terry Rozier in the first round last year.

    so our first rounder and KA for 2 of their second rounders and Smart.

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    Do they?

    Because they have Isaiah Thomas as the starter. Avery Bradley on the bench. And drafted Terry Rozier in the first round last year.

    so our first rounder and KA for 2 of their second rounders and Smart.
    Boston laughs that trade suggestion off. Plus Avery Bradley is a SG, not a PG.

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    Boston laughs that trade suggestion off. Plus Avery Bradley is a SG, not a PG.
    Huh, you work for boston! You know?

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    Huh, you work for boston! You know?
    Don't know why you're obsessed with wanting 2 2nds (which turns out to be draft and stash project in Europe that never make it into the NBA) and getting rid of Kyle for. Plus Boston can get much better than KA if they do that route.

    Quit while your ahead.

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    Porker "knocked out" countless PGs while being a NET negative, Speedy Claxton is rolling over in his grave.
    Steven Kerr circa 2003 WCF game 6 rolling in his grave.

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    Don't know why you're obsessed with wanting 2 2nds (which turns out to be draft and stash project in Europe that never make it into the NBA) and getting rid of Kyle for. Plus Boston can get much better than KA if they do that route.

    Quit while your ahead.
    You really do have a crystal ball. You already know our draft picks too! Awesome!

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    You really do have a crystal ball. You already know our draft picks too! Awesome!
    When your sorry self wanted two second rounders for no reason at all, tells me everything right there.

    Takes two to tango. And wanting to trade Kyle for a PG is beyond stupid. Don't know why you hate him that much. Smh

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    Manu was paid $7.5M when he was 35 and $7M when he was 36.

    Source: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-anton...manu-ginobili/

    Saying he was paid $14M when he was 35 is blatantly inflating that figure by almost 100%.
    In 2012-'13, Manu was 35 years old and made $14,107,492.00 which is a little less than what Tony will make at the same age.

    Also, I think Parker is bright enough to realize he needs a viable successor soon to be able to mentor and (hopefully) help him reach his goal of playing until 40 years old or 20 years. He can't do that without eventually becoming a backup and playing far less minutes especially with more international basketball this Summer.

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    I dont think Parker will be traded, but I would look for Phily to be partner in hipothetical trade. They need PG, they need salaries to meet bottom requirement, they need experience, they need more than 15 wins. They have 24th and 26th picks this year. They have guys with no future in their roster like Stauskas. Maybe Parker and Diaw as duo for whatever RC can get. Spurs would need salary space rather than actual assets. Pick + Stauskas/Grant for Parker and maybe Diaw. This could work. they had Gerald Wallace and JaVale McGee on roster for that minimum salary requirement

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    Spurs need to dump 35-40 mil imo.
    Get rid of Parker, Boris, KA and then Duncan/Manu/Andre/West/Bonner all retire.

    Spurs then could afford all big 3 FA's in Pau, Durant, Conley, and would have money to go after a guy like Batum. Then acquire a lengthy good defensive PG in MCW.

    Conley/Mills/MCW
    Kawhi/Green/Martin
    Durant/Batum/Simmons
    LMA/ ???
    Gasol/Boban

    Obviously would never happen, but if I were GM..........

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    Spurs need to dump 35-40 mil imo.
    Get rid of Parker, Boris, KA and then Duncan/Manu/Andre/West/Bonner all retire.

    Spurs then could afford all big 3 FA's in Pau, Durant, Conley, and would have money to go after a guy like Batum. Then acquire a lengthy good defensive PG in MCW.

    Conley/Mills/MCW
    Kawhi/Green/Martin
    Durant/Batum/Simmons
    LMA/ ???
    Gasol/Boban

    Obviously would never happen, but if I were GM..........
    That starting 5 alone would cost $120+ million dollars, buddy. Not going to happen ever.

    And why would the front office wreck the entire roster but keep Kevin Martin (who sucks), Jonathan Simmons and Patty Mills around? What makes any of them worth keeping in the fold?

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    That starting 5 alone would cost $120+ million dollars, buddy. Not going to happen ever.

    And why would the front office wreck the entire roster but keep Kevin Martin (who sucks), Jonathan Simmons and Patty Mills around? What makes any of them worth keeping in the fold?
    Well duh, you make these babies take pay cuts to win ships, and if they don't you spank them and put them in timeout. And secondly to fill roster Spots. See if Simmons can evolve, keep Patty as a bench towel waving hype man, and let K. Mart do what he did last year (fill a roster spot).

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    Well duh, you make these babies take pay cuts to win ships, and if they don't you spank them and put them in timeout. And secondly to fill roster Spots. See if Simmons can evolve, keep Patty as a bench towel waving hype man, and let K. Mart do what he did last year (fill a roster spot).
    Why would Durant take a paycut to join the Spurs when he's already playing for a team with a better coach, is favoured and coddled by referees, and has progressed further in the playoffs?

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    Spurs aren't going to trade Parker to a garbage team. He'll only go to a contender, which makes trading him highly unlikely.

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