Mic e Obama gets her way on nutrition labels

[Spurminator]

And I have no idea why my edit posted a new reply.

[DMX7]

Funny thing is fat white America will basically read Mic e Obama's words everytime they stuff their faces

Slavery has gone full circle

those are the kind of people that never looked at the label in the first place and they still won't

[spurraider21]

just because you misspoke and got called out for it, you backpedal and call it tangential. ok

[Spurminator]

just because you misspoke and got called out for it, you backpedal and call it tangential. ok

I didn't misspeak, the part of the post I was responding to was clear. It is tangential, but like I said, if you're looking for a debate on it, I'm not doing anything right now either.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why dont they list how much growth hormone is pump into these products to get them ready to meat supply/demand onto the market for the masses?

[rmt]

It's unfortunate to see this post from a woman. Perhaps you should post a picture of yourself so we can point out what's wrong with your face.

Why should it matter that my post is from a woman? I notice you had nothing to say about CC's "fat ass" or Reck's "a face only a mother could love" which are worse than my comment. What I said is the truth. She does have a over(under) byte. It's not insulting. And I complimented her body - no mention of that. Double standard - you guys can comment on physical appearance, but I can't?

[rmt]

It seems like context clues would indicate to most people that it was the first part of her statement I was responding to, but if you want to continue to knit pick this tangential topic for a few more pages I guess I'm game.

I could nitpick your spelling too, but I'll settle for being treated fairly - not any worse that the "I'd hit it" and "you have to have the full package to go along with the body" comments which you don't criticize.

[rmt]

when I get type 2 diabetes, I don't want to have any idea it's coming

I have diabetes - didn't have any idea it was coming either - thought my dad had it because of old age (like high blood pressure and high cholesterol) but even though I ate a healthy diet, you can't fight the genes. But the stuff (pesticides, hormones) they put in our food probably does negatively affect the onset. I assume that he had a lot more natural, un-tampered food growing up in China and living in Jamaica than I had living the majority of my life here in the States. My advice, go low carb, high fat as prevention - diabetes is so prevalent now.

bull , your body doesn't process blueberries the same way it processes oreo cookies.

When it comes to diabetes (which I'm pretty sure all this is aimed at), it doesn't matter whether the carbs come from blueberries, whole grains, or white sugar. It's the dietary fiber that tells you - how much you can subtract from the Total Carbohydrates to get the net carbs that affect blood sugar. The blueberries and whole grains, however, have other good stuff (like antioxidants, vitamins, etc.) that the white sugar doesn't.

And regarding Mic e's over (under) byte - it's not just appearance-wise but function-wise that she should look into fixing it. This coming from a mother who is steeling herself for braces on her last child this summer. I should look at the bright side - 1 out of 3 ain't bad, but God would choose the one with allergies to have the open byte.

[Spurminator]

Why should it matter that my post is from a woman? I notice you had nothing to say about CC's "fat ass" or Reck's "a face only a mother could love" which are worse than my comment. What I said is the truth. She does have a over(under) byte. It's not insulting. And I complimented her body - no mention of that. Double standard - you guys can comment on physical appearance, but I can't?

I expect it from the others. As a woman, I'm guessing you've had to deal with superficiality more than most men, so I would think you'd want to be less quick to make everything about appearance.

Or you can play in the mud with the pigs and cry about double standards when someone says you should be better than the pigs.

[Will Hunting]

When it comes to diabetes (which I'm pretty sure all this is aimed at), it doesn't matter whether the carbs come from blueberries, whole grains, or white sugar. It's the dietary fiber that tells you - how much you can subtract from the Total Carbohydrates to get the net carbs that affect blood sugar. The blueberries and whole grains, however, have other good stuff (like antioxidants, vitamins, etc.) that the white sugar doesn't.

My post about how the body processes oreos/blueberries wasn't aimed at diabetes, it was more America's general poor health/obesity. Blueberries/natural foods don't jack your insulin levels up the same way processed/added sugar does.

[mrsmaalox]

Only in America can you find people who are outraged about having the food they're eating accurately labeled.

[mrsmaalox]

I expect it from the others. As a woman, I'm guessing you've had to deal with superficiality more than most men, so I would think you'd want to be less quick to make everything about appearance.

Or you can play in the mud with the pigs and cry about double standards when someone says you should be better than the pigs.

lol

[Shastafarian]

For people reading this thread, I implore you not to take nutritional or medical advice from people who are clearly not medical professionals. Avoid considering things like this:

My advice, go low carb, high fat as prevention

[boutons_deux]

For people reading this thread, I implore you not to take nutritional or medical advice from people who are clearly not medical professionals. Avoid considering things like this:

what's wrong with that advice?

[Will Hunting]

For people reading this thread, I implore you not to take nutritional or medical advice from people who are clearly not medical professionals. Avoid considering things like this:

That's the part of her post that actually made sense, particularly the idea that the food pyramid is bull .

The part about natural sugars being processed the same way as added sugar was bull though.

[Shastafarian]

what's wrong with that advice?

You mean aside from the fact fat contains more than twice the calories per unit weight than carbohydrates and our bodies aren't meant to maintain a low carb diet long term? There's also the fact of high protein (Atkins diet, etc) in the diet possibly leading to renal complications.

To live a healthy lifestyle, eat healthy things. That includes healthy varieties of carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. It's not that difficult.

[Will Hunting]

You mean aside from the fact fat contains more than twice the calories per unit weight than carbohydrates and our bodies aren't meant to maintain a low carb diet long term? There's also the fact of high protein (Atkins diet, etc) in the diet possibly leading to renal complications.

To live a healthy lifestyle, eat healthy things. That includes healthy varieties of carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. It's not that difficult.

Maybe I read it wrong but I didn't get the sense that her post was advocating for an extreme like the Atkins diet where you cut out all carbs and eat 2 pounds of bacon every morning. I think all she was saying was your diet shouldn't be grain-based and that there are plenty of fats that you should be eating.

[Shastafarian]

Maybe I read it wrong but I didn't get the sense that her post was advocating for an extreme like the Atkins diet where you cut out all carbs and eat 2 pounds of bacon every morning. I think all she was saying was your diet shouldn't be grain-based and that there are plenty of fats that you should be eating.

The diet of a normal and healthy adult should not be fat-dominant. It's questionable whether you can have a healthy diet be protein dominant. Even if that's the case, carbohydrates should be a large % of overall intake. The confusion and misinformation comes from what types of carbohydrates we are taking in. Simple sugars? Refined sugars? Complex carbs? Whole grains? Her advice is at best vague and people who are actually thinking about changing their eating habits should talk to their doctor and/or a nutritionist.

[DMX7]

You mean aside from the fact fat contains more than twice the calories per unit weight than carbohydrates and our bodies aren't meant to maintain a low carb diet long term? There's also the fact of high protein (Atkins diet, etc) in the diet possibly leading to renal complications.

To live a healthy lifestyle, eat healthy things. That includes healthy varieties of carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. It's not that difficult.

Totally agree. I truly believe nutrition basics should be taught in school, but I'm sure the sugar lobby and others would fight it. Nutrition as a class or as part of P.E. would be great and I think young people would actually be interested in it (at least much more than they might have been in a past generation).

[boutons_deux]

there are good fats, even good saturated fats, and lots bad fats (esp mammal fats)

there are harmless (slow) carbs and tons of really bad, fast carbs like sugar and HFCS

[Shastafarian]

even good saturated fats

Such as?

[boutons_deux]

Such as?

palm oil, coconut oil, grape and grapeseed oil, avocado and other seed oils, etc. BigFood crap (subsidized) oils are corn oil and soy oil.

[Shastafarian]

palm oil, coconut oil, grape and grapeseed oil, avocado and other seed oils, etc. BigFood crap (subsidized) oils are corn oil and soy oil.

Those aren't solely saturated fats. Those you listed are fats that can be higher in saturated fat content. Saturated fat is not good and should be avoided as much as possible in regards to health. I think the only caveat is saturated fats are ok when not being ingested, but used topically.

[boutons_deux]

coconut oil is naturally saturated

[Shastafarian]

coconut oil is naturally saturated

So what? Saturation is in reference to the chemical bonds and how they stack. Saturated fats stacking in vessels is why they aren't healthy. Origin of saturation doesn't matter.