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    They value shedding the "dead" salary to create room to use that salary to sign a better player(s).
    They do, Phoenix doesn't.

    There's no reason for PHX to hold on to 33 yr old under-performing Tyson Chandler. They'd use that 39 million remaining a lot better than 33 yr old Tyson Chandler.
    Not really.

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    They do, Phoenix doesn't.



    Not really.
    You don't know that.

    Plus its irrelevant.

    The value of a team taking on a 24 year old role player w/ 3 yrs 21 mil remaining or a 28 yr old role player w/ 2 yr/ 12 mil remaining is the 22nd pick. Knowing that information, taking on a 33 yr old overpaid role player w/ 3 yr 39 million has to be better than the 22nd pick -- its common sense. Just admit, you were wrong on the value of taking on 3 yrs. 39 million in salary for a 33 yr old role player.

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    I wouldn't take on any contracts for picks until KD's decision tbh.

    If KD chooses the Spurs we have the best off-season in the NBA, no matter what other teams do.

    And yeah, for those who didn't believe that Green couldn't net a lottery pick, just look at the Hill/Teague/12 deal . People overvalue picks and undervalue high impact players who are not stars.

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    Not before seeing what Durant wants to do.
    Ugh.. I know.. it hamstrings the flexibility just a bit.

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    Would you take on Lamb for 22?
    In a heart beat. Durant is not coming here.

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    The Suns are always stock piling point guards only to get rid of them later on

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    In a heart beat. Durant is not coming here.
    If the Spurs are in true pursuit of Durant it's going to end up hamstringing them in potential youth moment and bench growth. I'd rather have 3 or 4 marginal players on the bench to build around Kawhi then hunting for another superstar which will deplete the bench because of salary.

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    Plus its irrelevant.
    No. If you don't want to move a player, you aren't going to pay a lot to do it. This should be obvious.

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    The Suns are always stock piling point guards only to get rid of them later on
    They have no idea how to run an organization.. They're looking for another Nash

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    Gotta love the Suns, man. They win almost every trade they make, but they still can't build a roster for .

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    If the Spurs are in true pursuit of Durant it's going to end up hamstringing them in potential youth moment and bench growth. I'd rather have 3 or 4 marginal players on the bench to build around Kawhi then hunting for another superstar which will deplete the bench because of salary.
    Yeah that's where I'm at as well. Putting all your eggs in one basket in the Durant race, seeing as the possibility of him coming here is really low, does put the team on a leash with the things they can or can't do right now. Seems like there are some super desperate teams out there that the Spurs could take advantage of. The Spurs really do need talent all around right now.

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    Yeah that's where I'm at as well. Putting all your eggs in one basket in the Durant race, seeing as the possibility of him coming here is really low, does put the team on a leash with the things they can or can't do right now. Seems like there are some super desperate teams out there that the Spurs could take advantage off right now. The Spurs really do need talent all around right now.
    I agree. Make the best team you can right now, and then see what happens next summer with KD if he ends up staying in OKC.

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    If the Spurs are in true pursuit of Durant it's going to end up hamstringing them in potential youth moment and bench growth. I'd rather have 3 or 4 marginal players on the bench to build around Kawhi then hunting for another superstar which will deplete the bench because of salary.
    It won't deplete the bench anymore that the team should have been depleting it in the first place. Anderson and Green or Anderson, Mills and Boban plus a lottery pick is a great foundation for the second unit.

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    If the Spurs are in true pursuit of Durant it's going to end up hamstringing them in potential youth moment and bench growth. I'd rather have 3 or 4 marginal players on the bench to build around Kawhi then hunting for another superstar which will deplete the bench because of salary.
    Hopefully 3-4 better-than-marginal players - rotation players, for the cap space that would need to be allocated for Durant.

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    imho the time for a Durant chance is now...if we can have enough cap space available.
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    I agree. Make the best team you can right now, and then see what happens next summer with KD if he ends up staying in OKC.
    Plus you have to make sure that the Kawhi knows he's the man here if that's who you believe to be the leader of this team going forward. You have to build around him and his strengths. Can't just take Superstars and All Stars and throw them into the starting line up and say, "go play together guys" the bench will be full of scrubs and we will have discussions here when Pop decides to only play Kawhi, Durant and LMA 30 minutes a season and the bench gives up solid leads.

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    What if Durant teases but ultimately sabotages the Spurs ala Deandre Jordan with the Mavs? That would suck and could be his way of weakening a top 2 rival. And there's no rule against it.

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    I trust Spurs management in that if Durant is taking his sweet time making a decision the Spurs will give him a drop dead date. I'd love to have KD as a Spur but if he is going to flange around its best the Spurs look elsewhere.

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    What if Durant teases but ultimately sabotages the Spurs ala Deandre Jordan with the Mavs? That would suck and could be his way of weakening a top 2 rival. And there's no rule against it.
    Regardless of how he coaches, Pop is too smart to let that happen. Apparently, GSW is at the top of his list if he doesn't stay at OKC. And GSW said they want Durant. So he's not going to be a Spur.

    And Durant may be waiting to see what the other teams do in the draft and offseason. Pop isn't going to sacrifice the team by waiting on him.

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    Spurs shouldn't even waste their time with KD. He isn't going to leave OKC.

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    I feel Hayward had a lot of value in this league, but Utah is on the verge of the playoffs so isn't likely to move him. Meanwhile, Phoenix is a mess. Don't know why they messed with Bledsoe in the first place.

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    I wouldn't take on any contracts for picks until KD's decision tbh.

    If KD chooses the Spurs we have the best off-season in the NBA, no matter what other teams do.

    And yeah, for those who didn't believe that Green couldn't net a lottery pick, just look at the Hill/Teague/12 deal . People overvalue picks and undervalue high impact players who are not stars.
    Agreed + There are trolls that just want to give out players for peanuts bc they don't like them without understanding the impact that player has in our team's wins.

    I am paying attention to Minnesota. Thibodeau reportedly wanted Jimmy Butler, but Chicago went the other way.

    Minny desperately needs 3pts shooting and perimeter defense and Thibodeau is a defensive coach. I think Danny is in play for the 5th pick. It really depends on whether Minny can get anyone better.

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    Jake Fischer: The Houston Rockets have called teams gauging interest in Trevor Ariza, Patrick Beverley and K.J. McDaniels, according to a league source.

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