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    doesn't matter. Guns make killing extremely reliable.
    and more white kill whites than blacks kill blacks.

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    ... and accidental gun deaths... and single murders...
    that's not really the point you were making or that it seemed like you were making.

    Yup. Deal with the cost.

    Because I think we have had enough mass shootings.

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    Let's see... 33,636 per year...

    336,000 in a decade, or somewhere over a million people in my lifetime.

    That is an awful lot of dead people.

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    that's not really the point you were making or that it seemed like you were making.
    Guns make it easy to end human life, far easier than it should be.

    Mass shootings are simply the festering boil that belies the underlying infection.

    Better?

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    It would make mine move valuable...

    Can you imagine how many would be sold between the passing of the ban and the ban itself?
    A lot.

    I harbor no illusions that reducing guns would be easy, nor am I naive enough to think we ever could get rid of all of them, which isn't what I would want anyway.

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    It would make mine move valuable...

    Can you imagine how many would be sold between the passing of the ban and the ban itself?
    Sure, they'd be more valuable... therefore more expensive, therefore more likely to be sold to collectors vs. criminal hotheads. It's a step in the right direction.

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    10 rounds a minute?

    these things are usually over after 8 seconds.
    So the Orlando guy killed 49 people and injured 53 in 8 seconds...

    Ok that rate is definitely too high.

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    what determines a high rate of fire? The AR-15 that always seems to be the target of these bans doesn't have a significantly different rate of fire than many hunting rifles.
    Whoa...

    I watched this thing fire as fast as a finger twitch. The hunting rifles I have seen fired don't have magazines. You just buy rounds. Hmmm... I am not a gun expert so I guess I need to see the rest of my friends arsenal.

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    Whoa...

    I watched this thing fire as fast as a finger twitch. The hunting rifles I have seen fired don't have magazines. You just buy rounds. Hmmm... I am not a gun expert so I guess I need to see the rest of my friends arsenal.
    yep. Here's a hunting rifle that was able to get off 6 shots in less than a second.


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    Whoa...

    I watched this thing fire as fast as a finger twitch. The hunting rifles I have seen fired don't have magazines. You just buy rounds. Hmmm... I am not a gun expert so I guess I need to see the rest of my friends arsenal.
    and here's another hunting rifle that can do a lot of damage very quickly


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    yep. Here's a hunting rifle that was able to get off 6 shots in less than a second.

    DIE SQUIRRELS DIE!

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    Let's see... 33,636 per year...

    336,000 in a decade, or somewhere over a million people in my lifetime.

    That is an awful lot of dead people.

    Isn't that per year number you gave including people chosing over their own bodies? How is that a bad thing?

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    yep. Here's a hunting rifle that was able to get off 6 shots in less than a second.

    Well ok then.

    Got a mess o' hogs surrounded Cletus, and I got a hard feeln in my pants.

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    Personally I am for repealing the 2nd amendment. It was a mistake, just like slavery.
    personally i'm for the SCOTUS actually acknowledging that the first half of the 2nd amendment, in fact, exists

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    Isn't that per year number you gave including people chosing over their own bodies? How is that a bad thing?
    I guess it's kinda sad that people feel poorly enough to do themselves in.
    Im thinkin this is a bad thing. But you know, that's just me.

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    personally i'm for the SCOTUS actually acknowledging that the first half of the 2nd amendment, in fact, exists
    You mean like how they are extremely consistent in not allowing confiscation and quote it?

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    personally i'm for the SCOTUS actually acknowledging that the first half of the 2nd amendment, in fact, exists
    Not sure that would change anything, TBH

    Official definitions of "Militia" in Texas:

    Sec. 431.001. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
    (1) "Reserve militia" means the persons liable to serve, but not serving, in the state military forces.
    (1-a) "Servicemember" has the meaning assigned by Section 161.551, Health and Safety Code.
    (2) "State militia" means the state military forces and the reserve militia.
    (3) "State military forces" means the Texas National Guard, the Texas State Guard, and any other active militia or military force organized under state law.

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    No sure what that would change? Maybe you have to be a member of a militia to buy a gun

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    Isn't that per year number you gave including people chosing over their own bodies? How is that a bad thing?
    That is a good point.

    Ask their relatives.

    I personally am in favor of the right to die, generally.

    That said, even taking out the number of gun-assisted suicides, you still have 10,000+ deaths that would be arguably prevented, were guns not to exist, or be severely restricted.

    Australia has some fairly heavy restrictions on guns, and, unsurprisingly, hasn't had a mass shooting in almost two decades.

    Leaving us STILL with the question:

    How many people are we willing to sacrifice on the altar of gun ownership every year?

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    Does Summers want to ban big guns or swallow them?

    heyoooo!!

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    No sure what that would change? Maybe you have to be a member of a militia to buy a gun
    Look at the definition of "Reserve Militia"; could be anyone.

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    and the 2nd Amendment militia was in the absence of a US standing army of any import, so the militia was to defend against external threats, not to police/overthrow/revolt against the (national, state) govt.

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    Look at the definition of "Reserve Militia"; could be anyone.
    Reserve militia is considered unorganized militia whereas second amendment specifies well regulated militia

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    at the amateur cons utional scholars in here.

    #fullof


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    Does Summers want to ban big guns or swallow them?

    heyoooo!!
    I dunno. Is Obama a better president than you ever would be?

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