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Agree. But even worse is the hypocrisy of saying one thing on LG and another on ST.
Saying Kobe had a higher peak is straight out re ed. None of the stats or even team accomplishments speak to that. Kobes peak led to missed playoffs and his highest ws, vorp, or bpm can't even compare to Duncan's.Oh really?
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yinoma2001 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote: Two great players, we were lucky to have watched them play.
I think you and I were probably two of the more "open" Duncan "fans" here. I have nothing but respect for the guy. One of my fave players all time, and I always dreamed we'd find a way to get him here.
No offense to Shaq lovers but back in 99 ...
I argued for a trade of Shaq for Tim straight up.
I knew he had better posy game and would age better.
He would have been nuts in the triangle too when he had that bank shot.
I think you can make a case for both guys ...i think Kobe at his peak was greater but Duncan was more consistent.
Its close but maybe Duncan desetves the edge .. it doesnt take anything away from either guy. Same if you prefer Kobe.
Agree. But even worse is the hypocrisy of saying one thing on LG and another on ST.
Just found out Timmy ranged 5 times. Westbrook...0Just found out Russell Westbrook had a higher GPA than Tammy while in college. 3.9 > 3.8
Go Russ
Sounds like someone I know, tbh.
He rang 6 times. Just has the 2nd 5th to show for it.
In which way was Dirk more influential?
All this new trend we are seeing now about stars resigning money to play in compe ive teams started with Tim Duncan and the Spurs. What has Dirk done to influence the NBA more than that?
KG's 2003-04 season is the best of the decade for a PF & KG was also the best player in the 2008 postseason where he was better than 2011 Dirk by basically every metric that account for overall performance.
KG was better than Tim in the REGULAR SEASON just like how Admiral was better than Hakeem in the regular season but the postseason is a different animal.
What does that prove?Oh really?
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yinoma2001 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote: Two great players, we were lucky to have watched them play.
I think you and I were probably two of the more "open" Duncan "fans" here. I have nothing but respect for the guy. One of my fave players all time, and I always dreamed we'd find a way to get him here.
No offense to Shaq lovers but back in 99 ...
I argued for a trade of Shaq for Tim straight up.
I knew he had better posy game and would age better.
He would have been nuts in the triangle too when he had that bank shot.
I think you can make a case for both guys ...i think Kobe at his peak was greater but Duncan was more consistent.
Its close but maybe Duncan desetves the edge .. it doesnt take anything away from either guy. Same if you prefer Kobe.
I gave Duncan the edge in both places career wise ...
If you keep reading on to the quote from LG you posted ...it ends with me on a Lakers site saying that Duncan should get the edge over Kobe? How does that make a hypocrite dumbass?
Nicca trying to act like he caught me in a lie when many on LG would call me a traitor for dat ...
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He's probably talking about "Stretch 4s" but I've yet to see another Dirk since he came into the league other than Dominos shooting one legged fadeaways.
Where is the difference?
I didnt say anything different dumbass
Peak is a different argument ...or can you not read?
Wasnt about metrics that is just my opinion same as me picking peak shaq or Hakeem over Duncan
Yeah, I was waiting for that answer to on it.He's probably talking about "Stretch 4s" but I've yet to see another Dirk since he came into the league other than Dominos shooting one legged fadeaways.
Jordan still has he highest career WS/48 in postseason history by a decent margin despite sitting out two of his PRIME seasons.
You're much too kind. Jordan was run off by the NBA. He was thrown out of the NBA.
Amb asked you to debate Kobe v. Duncan peak. You declined, saying (on ST) it was Duncan. You trot over to LG and claim "i think Kobe at his peak was greater but Duncan was more consistent". Which is it? Your LG persona or your ST persona?
No i never said Duncan was better at his peak than Kobe. That is what you get for trying to jump in to a argument betweem me and Amb
I said i wouldnt argue with amb because i already said after the le in 2014 as an all time rank i now have Duncan with the edge.
I still think Kobe at his peak was the greater player that has never changed ...and amb knows that.
You saw me on LG had to try and prove a point but you still are wrong. Show me where i said peak duncan was better than kobe? The edge referrenced is the long standing debate me and Amb had. I was telling him i wouldnt revisit it that day (like i said i would) out of respect for Tim's retirement.
Why didnt you just ask if you did not understand the context instead of stalking me on LG?
And here you are going on 10 years still sniffing his farts on Spurstalk.
lmcontrollinao!!!
You probably have brown lung by now.
I can see arguments of peak Shaq or Hakeem over Duncan. Kobe isn't even in the same category. The only reason Kobe ranked so high on most people on the all-time list was his longevity. If he had a peak higher than Duncan and his longevity is comparable to Duncan's, I can't see how you can reasonably rank Duncan over Kobe overall.
No i never said Duncan was better at his peak than Kobe. That is what you get for trying to jump in to a argument betweem me and Amb
I said i wouldnt argue with amb because i already said after the le in 2014 as an all time rank i now have Duncan with the edge.
I still think Kobe at his peak was the greater player that has never changed ...and amb knows that.
You saw me on LG had to try and prove a point but you still are wrong. Show me where i said peak duncan was better than kobe? The edge referrenced is the long standing debate me and Amb had. I was telling him i wouldnt revisit it that day (like i said i would) out of respect for Tim's retirement.
Why didnt you just ask if you did not understand the context instead of stalking me on LG?
A thread about Duncan on LG, yeah, I'm going to read it. Your post was on the first page.
That is why it's an opinion.
To me arguing who had the better career was worthwhile.
Watching both players. I lean Kobe for peak duncan for career. Both are close.
Obviously I am biased, as are you.
Again, career wise to me it's Timmy but it's close.
If that is not enough for you I don't have anymore to give.
I talked about re-opening the debate once they both retired but really nothing is gonna change unless I go back to placing Kobe over duncan.
Im at peace with my rankings. Feel free to debate Cobbler or Kool
Why bother to post what I said on LG if you are not gonna read it?
A thread about Duncan on LG, yeah, I'm going to read it. Your post was on the first page.
It clearly states in the post you copied nd pasted here that Career wise that "maybe duncan should get the edge"
You still havent explained how that makes me a hypocrite
I was on LG and on here on tim's retirement day saying Duncan had the better career .. but instead of going after the posters who are arguing Kobe did, you came after me ... And failed.
Like Timmy said, reading is FUn-DA-MENTAL
Highlighted the part Splits keeps missing ...Oh really?
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yinoma2001 wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote: Two great players, we were lucky to have watched them play.
I think you and I were probably two of the more "open" Duncan "fans" here. I have nothing but respect for the guy. One of my fave players all time, and I always dreamed we'd find a way to get him here.
No offense to Shaq lovers but back in 99 ...
I argued for a trade of Shaq for Tim straight up.
I knew he had better posy game and would age better.
He would have been nuts in the triangle too when he had that bank shot.
I think you can make a case for both guys ...i think Kobe at his peak was greater but Duncan was more consistent.
Its close but maybe Duncan deserves the edge .. it doesnt take anything away from either guy. Same if YOU prefer Kobe.
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