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    30 million on two bench pla4yers
    One member of the Big 3 has been a bench player for most of his NBA career

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    whiteside has a 7-7 wingspan, dedmon just a 7-4 wingspan though
    I agree, it's a big difference, but their style of play seems strangely similar

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    30 million on two bench players
    For the regular season with weak compe ion, I would not be surprised if Gasol takes it easy most of the season.

    Gasol is likely going to be like Robert Horry. Remember, Horry retired when he was around Gasol's age, so expect Horry treatment from Pop.

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    2. They are in love with Ryan Arcidiacono and Bryn Forbes. They think both guys can be NBA players because of their skills.
    That would be HUGE if two undrafted rookies became valuable contributors. Would even further bolster PATFO's rep.

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    Like some others have said, I don't hate the idea. Think it could be a viable strategy. Just not sure I believe it however...don't see them bringing in Pau so he can come off the bench, and I'm not sure he'd be fine with that idea.

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    I think Dedmon cold play the Blair role of 18-20 mpg while Gasol takes the bulk of the remaining center minutes with maybe LMA sliding over to 5 in certain closeout situation.

    The Mills-Manu-Simmons-Anderson four man unit intrigues me though a lot depends on Simmons and Anderson being consistent 3pt shooters to maximize the floor spacing.

    Think Bertans and Simmons will be competing for minutes at the 3 but Simmons has the leg up. Like KA as a 4 assuming he can hit corner 3's, and be able to knock down mid range jumpers (he seems to be good at hitting contested pull up J's). He seems to be a better rebounder than Diaw was , and I like the idea of him grabbing a board and pushing it in transition where his man, the opposing PF is put in the position of having to stop ball.

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    whiteside has a 7-7 wingspan, dedmon just a 7-4 wingspan though
    Arms are still 6 inches longer than his height, that's still pretty impressive

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    Pau will turn into Diaw 1.0 if he gets benched.
    Doubt it, I find Boris more likeable than Pau as a human being but Boris was such a lazy bum, Pau is here to contribute.

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    30 million on two bench players

    Neither of which might be the best bench players TBH.
    I need my aging vets no matter what! Where's Tony? Where's Bonner? Boban too young.

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    The question is, if he does well this season can we afford him next season? He has a player option, what if some other team wants to grossly overpay him for what he did this season?

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    The question is, if he does well this season can we afford him next season? He has a player option, what if some other team wants to grossly overpay him for what he did this season?
    By itself, that's not a problem. The Spurs will have plenty of cap with comparatively fewer holes than they had this season. But if the team wants to get in on the CP3/Westbrook action, they'll have a much harder time of it if Dedmon opts out (and is worth keeping).

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    Arms are still 6 inches longer than his height, that's still pretty impressive
    yes, he's like Jon Jones

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    No I was considering the possibility for real of Pau in the bench and how maybe Danny can help the bench defense. The bit about JSimms increased role could be about him starting.... you are assuming stuff I didn't type.

    It's rather the concern about Pau/ANderson or Pau/Bertans defensively. Kyle was very good defensively last season, but that was as a wing, as a big it's another matter and Bertans it's even more if a question mark. I think they will be alright but it's fine to wonder about that without regard for Anderson shooting, which by the way he was already a lower usage player than Simmons last season. Simmons wasn't a good defender though so I am not sure.
    It was a joke.

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    The Spurs could really use a dynamic 2 guard with handles and an outside shot.

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    Keith is a really nice guy and one of the nicest mods on realgm. Said that, I doubt Pau comes off the bench, unless it's a 5 minute start to set the tone defensively and Pau plays 30+ minutes for the rest of the game.
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    Meh possible but only because of Manu also coming off the bench IMO. Spurs probably have the most expensive bench next year.

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    It would make sense as Ginobili and the second unit suffered a lot the lack of a good pick and roll man and rim protector. Gasol is Both.

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    Dedmon doesn't have Tim's upside offensively

    Tim's best defensive attribute was that he contested so well without fouling. Would be an adjustment.

    Dedmon doesn't have Tim's upside on offense, but the reality of Tim's offense last season was just not very good. So if we're comparing to last year, Dedmon could actually be a plus on offense. Tim just couldn't finish at the rim last year. So Dedmon would bring a lot to the offense, just by making the easy ones.

    Yeah, my first thought was whether Dedmon can stay in the game, as a starter playing against other starters. Hopefully he'll get a starter's respect, but that's not a given. In the paint area, especially, a lot of the fouls are caused by getting there too late and reaching (or trying to jump in front of someone too late). One of the reasons Tim was able to defend without fouling was that he always knew where to be on the floor.

    Gasol should be a freaking beast off the bench, and he has the potential to make some of the other bench players better. Manu has developed some great chemistry with other bench bigs, but most of them were pretend-bigs. Manu and Pau could really be something special.

    To me, the whole experiment would hinge on how well Dedmon can run the PnR, set screens in general, and understand the defensive rotations. It's sort of cliché, but "all the little things" - like Chinook said at the beginning, the un-glamorous things. The bench definitely gets more dynamic with Gasol. The rest of the starters have what it takes to put up points, but need a legit big helping them get space to operate.

    Rumors are worth what you pay for them, and even if this guy didn't make it up, the person who told him could have. The good news is, if they try this and it doesn't work, they can always switch them, and put Gasol in the starter's spot.

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    Keith is a really nice guy and once of the nicest mods on realgm. Said that, I doubt Pau comes off the bench, unless it's a 5 minute start to set the tone defensively and Pau plays 30+ minutes for the rest of the game.
    I don't think it would be 30-plus, but I do expect to see him get the bulk of the minutes. I'm thinking like 32 for LMA, 30 for Gasol, 20 for Dedmon and 14 for Anderson at PF (and more at SF). Hopefully, Dewayne is good enough to get more toward 24 minutes (like Green got in 2012 once he became a starter). That would make it easier for the Spurs to deal with any problems Anderson at the four or Simmons at the anything might cause.

    You can definitely see why they aren't falling all over themselves promising minutes to free agents. On an average night, they really won't have a lot.

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    Lol sorry I missed the sarcasm, I wasn't clear in the statement prior that led to your joke. Room for misunderstanding was a possibility.

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    The Spurs could really use a dynamic 2 guard with handles and an outside shot.
    This is probably Simmons. Might be the opinion of the "leak" source that he will be able to provide what they need thus the statement that they expect him to have a big role this season. I could see it bc he had the occasional scoring explosion when he was able to push the pace in transition and drew fouls, or got to the rim against bad defensive teams that don't get back in transition. That's an element in the bench that only he can provide and that may be the single most significant role that he can fill for them. Everything else would depend on Manu resting or deferring.
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    Pau will turn into Diaw 1.0 if he gets benched.
    That would be a risk for sure unless Pop explored this with him before the signing. Hard for a guy with so many seasons as a starter to see his role start to fade when he's taking less money to come here. I hope he is a high character guy who can put the team first if this is true and a surprise.

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    He doesn't seem to be 7'0" as advertised.
    It's true. 6-10 barefoot, but to be honest, he looks smaller than that. After watching him in some highlights I would have guessed, oh, 6-10 in shoes. Looks smaller than Ayres.

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    I don't think it would be 30-plus, but I do expect to see him get the bulk of the minutes. I'm thinking like 32 for LMA, 30 for Gasol, 20 for Dedmon and 14 for Anderson at PF (and more at SF). Hopefully, Dewayne is good enough to get more toward 24 minutes (like Green got in 2012 once he became a starter). That would make it easier for the Spurs to deal with any problems Anderson at the four or Simmons at the anything might cause.

    You can definitely see why they aren't falling all over themselves promising minutes to free agents. On an average night, they really won't have a lot.
    I'm actually glad about it. I'd rather go with the young blood on the team instead of giving key minutes to scrub vets. That's why I was happy about Bass joining the Clippers instead of the Spurs.

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    With gasol off the bench Lma and him would not be in each other way
    Duncan and Lma were a few times per game

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