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    Bernie just Blake'd

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    So far, best speech was Mic e Obama.
    she gave the best speech in the republican convention too, tbh

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    she gave the best speech in the republican convention too, tbh

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    tbh, what's he supposed to do? Pull a Cruz and act like a ? I actually think he's sincere at least when he talked about SCOTUS nomination, etc... that's no minor issue, and I'm pretty sure he prefers Shillary to Trump making those decisions, even if he probably doesn't like Shillary.
    Apples & oranges really. Even though he pretended to be an outsider, Cruz is the traditional establishment guy acting like a because the "change" candidate beat him. Bernie is the "change" candidate who just embraced business as usual.

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    It was the right platform for him to acknowledge the corruption and encourage a change but good ol' Bernie told his delegates to suppress their opinions and follow lock step behind him. Hillary has been proven a liar and a cheat and Sanders is still calling to support her.

    That was just disappointing and his staunchest supporters even said so...
    It sucked watching him endorse her and personally I can't bring myself to vote for her. Nono is right though. It's the logical move for him. This helps him become the most powerful senator in the country. It allows him to maintain his influence in order to demand more from the snake when she ends up being the president we all expect her to be.

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    Apples & oranges really. Even though he pretended to be an outsider, Cruz is the traditional establishment guy acting like a because the "change" candidate beat him. Bernie is the "change" candidate who just embraced business as usual.
    It is apples and oranges for more than that: Cruz knows he's relatively young, and he can be a frontrunner going forward. But, for Bernie there's no such thing. This was it, and there's no going back. That's why I said it's too late in the game now.

    Cruz is your average calculating politician playing the long game. There's no long game for Bernie, this was his shot, and there's no rolling back the candidacy at this point. He might as well hop in the Clinton train and try to use his influence from a potential Clinton administration. Realistically, that's all he has left.

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    lol asshurt conservatives mad it didn't go their way tonight

    yall wanted bernie to burn the whole thing down and he didn't so all you have left is to question his integrity


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    You on board the Clintrain, or is it too soon? The more the better
    I'd rather watch Enrique dribble the air out of the basketball for the rest of my life than vote for that snake. Ideally she'll be assassinated a couple of months into her presidency.

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    It sucked watching him endorse her and personally I can't bring myself to vote for her. Nono is right though. It's the logical move for him. This helps him become the most powerful senator in the country. It allows him to maintain his influence in order to demand more from the snake when she ends up being the president we all expect her to be.
    Exactly. Bernie best shot now is to try to fight from within a potential administration. Even if that fails, I doubt he's campaigning again in 4 years.

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    How was this the right platform for that? Would it have actually accomplished anything?

    He's a realist. He knows a sustained opposition means Trump wins. He actually cares about that, unlike the #BernieOrBust crowd who, for whatever reason, seem to be content with a Trump Presidency out of spite.

    Sanders had the golden opportunity to represent the majority, not the 1%. Some people followed Sanders because he exposed a system for what it was. Rigged and corrupt. And he's actually been proven correct with the leaks. Saying his supporters should vote for Shillary now because "In the end the establishment wins anyway so you might as well vote for them because blue is better than red" is really stupid.

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    People can change Doc. All we can do is hope she learned from her stupid mistakes in the past and comes out the better person for it. Besides that Bernie's voice is going to be bigger now and if Hillary s up he's not the kind of guy that will stay silent and let it go. He'll call her out.

    Yeah, if Hillary wins he will call her out for not delivering, will run against her and will sell out again.

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    Sanders had the golden opportunity to represent the majority, not the 1%. Some people followed Sanders because he exposed a system for what it was. Rigged and corrupt. And he's actually been proven correct with the leaks. Saying his supporters should vote for Shillary now because "In the end the establishment wins anyway so you might as well vote for them because blue is better than red" is really stupid.
    You keep saying vague things like "He could have represented the majority."

    What SPECIFICALLY do you think he should have done or said and how do you think that would have changed things? What exactly was "the opportunity"?

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    Sanders had the golden opportunity to represent the majority, not the 1%. Some people followed Sanders because he exposed a system for what it was. Rigged and corrupt. And he's actually been proven correct with the leaks. Saying his supporters should vote for Shillary now because "In the end the establishment wins anyway so you might as well vote for them because blue is better than red" is really stupid.
    Except he didn't say that, at all. He addressed very specific points where he feels blue vs red does matter, at least to him, and are very important going forward. ie: SCOTUS nominations.

    Should he speak up about the rigged nomination process? Sure. He actually did during the campaign, he even sued the DNC, IIRC.

    But his power right now is within the party to reform, he's not running again, I don't think.

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    Just because the DNC screwed you, and I sold you out, don't go getting pissed off, SMH...

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    How was this the right platform for that? Would it have actually accomplished anything?

    He's a realist. He knows a sustained opposition means Trump wins. He actually cares about that, unlike the #BernieOrBust crowd who, for whatever reason, seem to be content with a Trump Presidency out of spite.
    This guy is a right winger, just like angrydude.

    Bernie decided to endorse Hillary and not split the party apart so he's got a problem with Bernie now.

    Bernie supporters may or may not end up voting for Hillary but they are definately not going to vote for Trump under any circustance so I dont know why StrengthAndHonor is so butthurt.

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    why are some people angry that they didn't see fireworks a la Cruz? I know it makes for great TV, but this was pretty predictable. There's no way in they were rolling back the nomination due to those emails.

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    lol at people thinking the democrats are going to give a about Bernie after November 8th

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    But his power right now is within the party to reform, he's not running again, I don't think.
    Good.

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    lol at people thinking the democrats are going to give a about Bernie after November 8th
    I actually feel this is true too. Going forward, the Dems are going for Booker, Julian Castro, even Mic e Obama, tbh, don't sleep on her...

    All candidates that are already much more digestible than Shillary...

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    This guy is a right winger, just like angrydude.
    Got it, my bad. Makes sense now.

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    It's very likely that the worst night of the convention will be when Shillary speaks, tbh...

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    I cannot help but like Sanders. He didn't just tell people they should vote for Clinton. He told why with specific policy provisions. I was also happy to hear him say he wasn't finished. We need more people like him and not less.

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    lol asshurt conservatives mad it didn't go their way tonight

    yall wanted bernie to burn the whole thing down and he didn't so all you have left is to question his integrity


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    oops, wrong thread

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    rewatching it now.... didnt realize they actually had a cerebral palsy patient as a speaker

    and people thought the RNC show was trying to prey on emotions

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