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    Boom.

    It's amazing how players with soccer background..how much more creative they are on basketball. Its trully the sport with the perfect blend of skill, thinking and athletic ability.
    yeah its amazing how a sport where you can't use your hands at all and only use your feet helps you in a sport where you can't use your feet at all and only use your hands

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    yeah its amazing how a sport where you can't use your hands at all and only use your feet helps you in a sport where you can't use your feet at all and only use your hands
    Dumbass, soccer improves general passing vision. See Steve Nash. Improves, anticipation ask Hakeem.

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    Dumbass, soccer improves general passing vision. See Steve Nash. Improves, anticipation ask Hakeem.
    Yeah, NBA players weren't elite passers before floptrot players showed them how it's done

    Magic, Bird, Walton, Stockton, and modern players like Rondo, Chris Paul, Lebron were all soccer players

    Nash is also the most overrated player aside from Kirby since '98.

    and they both played soccer growing up

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    I killed it. Greatest athlete in the world was a baseball player who uses baseball training techniques. Baseball players can run faster and jump higher than soccer players on average as proven. We got vids of baseball players pulling off some impressive dunks.

    And the soccer crew has?

    Ronaldo dunking on an 8 foot rim
    Proven by whom?

    All you got is some meassurements from Trout and some other athletic baseball players that you compared it to the top speeds of soccer players REACHED DURING GAMES, not on athletic trails like the ones you got from Trout or the other baseball players, where you only have to worry about running ss fast as you can or jumping as high as you can. The only close thing you got of that from a soccer player is that Ronaldo did for a TV programme, a guy that probably isn't the fastest, the strongest, nor the one that jumps the highest of all football players.

    But aside from all that, we have discussed this before. Let's say Trout is more athletic than the most athletic soccer player. That still doesn't mean that baseball players are more athletic than soccer players on average.

    I would love to see David Ortiz, Pablo "Kung fu Panda" Sandoval and the Boston Red Sox take on Real Madrid on a decathlon. would be funny as , tbh.

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    Dumbass, soccer improves general passing vision. See Steve Nash. Improves, anticipation ask Hakeem.
    Don't forget Manu, the greatest passing SG ever, tbh.

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    Using Hakeem playing soccer as a kid in the stickball vs. povertyball fued

    I guess the reason why Hakeem was so good (I'll mainly focus on his legendary footwork) was because he kicked a ball around as a kid. I'll also guess that his footwork/post-up skills can all be traced back to this single event as a kid. You've got to be kidding me. Did it help any? Yes....I'm sure it translated a little bit to his success in the NBA game. The same with Jordan and baseball. I'm sure the hand-eye coordination required in baseball would help out in any sport. But, is it the main reason why they were successful? no. Is it even one of the top 10 reasons why they were successful? Again, no. It's weak to even mention the other sports played as a kid in this conversation.

    Also, you're not being fair if you leave out the probably tens of thousands of hours Hakeem practiced that legendary footwork/post-up skills ON A ING BASKETBALL COURT.

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    Nash is also the most overrated player aside from Kirby since '98.
    As much as I can't stand either one Kirby/Porker had the best footwork at their respective positions & they both grew-up playing futbol.




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    Don't forget Manu, the greatest passing SG ever, tbh.
    ..& Pau/Boris/Sabonis/Vlade the best passing PF/Cs of their generations despite Euros being 5% of the NBA roster.

    Fournier/Batum are also great passers for their positions.
    Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 07-26-2016 at 12:59 AM.

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    ..& Pau/Sabonis/Vlade the best passing PF/Cs of their generations.
    Sabonis and Vlade are from basketball obsessed Slavic countries.

    Magic has by far the best vision ever. Where are all his soccer trophies?

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    These poverty ball fans are ing delusional. No surprise the forums autistic poster is on that side of the argument.

    Just argument after argument.

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    Sabonis and Vlade are from basketball obsessed Slavic countries.
    The Soviet Union won the gold medal for Futbol at 88 Olympics.

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    The Soviet Union won the gold medal for Futbol at 88 Olympics.
    Got quotes of Sabonis saying he played soccer?

    "Well, no, but he's a Euro and they all love soccer, so he must've played it." (despite the fact Saba grew up in a country where basketball has been described as a "Religion.")

    That's why I thought.

    "Must've."

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    Using Hakeem playing soccer as a kid in the stickball vs. povertyball fued

    I guess the reason why Hakeem was so good (I'll mainly focus on his legendary footwork) was because he kicked a ball around as a kid. I'll also guess that his footwork/post-up skills can all be traced back to this single event as a kid. You've got to be kidding me. Did it help any? Yes....I'm sure it translated a little bit to his success in the NBA game. The same with Jordan and baseball. I'm sure the hand-eye coordination required in baseball would help out in any sport. But, is it the main reason why they were successful? no. Is it even one of the top 10 reasons why they were successful? Again, no. It's weak to even mention the other sports played as a kid in this conversation.

    Also, you're not being fair if you leave out the probably tens of thousands of hours Hakeem practiced that legendary footwork/post-up skills ON A ING BASKETBALL COURT.
    Dirk's has a mediocre footwork & court-vision b/c he was one of those Euros that didn't grow up playing Futbol (same w/ Porzingis & the new generation of Eastern Euros who are now just jumping straight to Bball from Day 1 like Americans).

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    Got quotes of Sabonis saying he played soccer?
    "Sabonis began playing basketball at age 13"

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    "Sabonis began playing basketball at age 13"
    Don't see any conclusive evidence:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=sabo...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    Ah, another great player who grew up playing baseball:

    He was a top-of-the-order hitter. Effective with two strikes. No power. Mostly a middle infielder and center fielder. Never a pitcher like his dad.

    Back in the day, Stephen Curry played baseball.
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors/...er-7785827.php

    It makes sense now why Steph has such great handles. When I moved from baseball to basketball, dribbling was by far the easiest skill to learn right off.

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    Nadal/Federer/Djokovic aka top 3 best tennis players in HISTORY played futbol growing up & Nadal/Djokovic actually had professional footballers in their family.

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    It makes sense now why Steph has such great handles. When I moved from baseball to basketball, dribbling was by far the easiest skill to learn right off.

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    Nice.

    How about Manu's "court vision" he learned from soccer?

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...306180MIA.html

    Manu seemed to forget that turnovers are punishing in basketball unlike in soccer

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    Dirk's has a mediocre footwork & court-vision b/c he was one of those Euros that didn't grow up playing Futbol (same w/ Porzingis & the new generation of Eastern Euros who are now just jumping straight to Bball from Day 1 like Americans).
    And like I said earlier...the greatest player to ever pick up a basketball spent his youth playing baseball.

    It doesn't mean a gotdamn thing.

    This entire "Well this sports superstar played this sport growing up" is the dumbest I've ever read in the stickball v povertyball feud. You know what Nash, Kobe, Hakeem, Djokovich, Federer, Nadal etc. all have in common? One day they decided soccer was boring as and decided to go another direction.

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    Nice.

    How about Manu's "court vision" he learned from soccer?

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...306180MIA.html

    Manu seemed to forget that turnovers are punishing in basketball unlike in soccer
    Turnobili was waaaaaaaaaaaaay past him prime, Wardell is at the PEAK of his prime & got served by Delly/Love in back-to-back Finals.

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    You know what Nash, Kobe, Hakeem, Djokovich, Federer, Nadal etc. all have in common? One day they decided soccer was boring as and decided to go another direction.
    Hakeem was a goal keeper which means the footwork he used to destroy NBA bigs wasn't good enough to be a positional player in futbol.

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    Turnobili was waaaaaaaaaaaaay past him prime, Wardell is at the PEAK of his prime & got served by Delly/Love in back-to-back Finals.
    Sure.

    Way past his prime to the point where he came back the next season and kicked the out of the same team in the Finals.

    He made ty TOs in his prime, too. Quit

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    Way past his prime to the point where he came back the next season and kicked the out of the same team in the Finals.
    Yup he got his aging eyes fixed & stopped splitting FTs.

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    Yup he got his aging eyes fixed & stopped splitting FTs.



    You're alright, and a fun "enemy" to debate with.

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    Spoken like someone who's never watched baseball. There's strategy involved in defensive positioning, pitch selection, pitching changes, and baserunning. Because the NL doesn't have the designated hitter, managers in that league also have to strategize around the pitcher in the lineup (for instance, the double switch).
    I used to watch a bunch of beisbol when I was younger. Was a Cubs fan, still am I guess although I don't really watch much until the playoffs and even then only catch the occasional game. Dusty Baker earned his paychecks for mostly chewing toothpicks. Being a beisbol manager is easy as . It's the slowest 'sport' and there's not a whole bunch of match-ups going on at any given time like in other sports.

    Look at a spreadsheet that tells you the tendencies of opposing hitters in order to shift the defense. there's plenty of time in between plays to not even have to memorize any of it. Know that a right handed batter struggles more with a left handed pitcher and vice versa. Learn what a double switch is (nothing complicated about it). Throw fake tantrums at umps to show displeasure at a call. Go give the pitcher a 'pep talk' when he's struggling. Give an extended 'pep talk' when a pitcher change is coming to give the incoming pitcher more time to warm-up. Those are basically the duties of a beisbol manager. Any average joe could perform them for a fraction of the price tbh.

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