Westbrook is 50. Just sayin'.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._active_p.html
Rank Player TS% 1. Kawhi Leonard .6023 2. Dwight Howard .5965 3. Stephen Curry .5950 4. Danny Green .5948 5. James Harden .5914 6. Chris Paul .5837 7. Manu Ginobili .5805
54. Tony Parker .5140 ![]()
Westbrook is 50. Just sayin'.
Another Parker bashing thread created by a troll. Dwight being number 2 shows you how credible this advance stat is.
but...but... FG%
SASdynasty! mode//
I wonder where fathead is rated...
Amazing how many lemmings are in this thread. TS% is garbage it doesn't factor in FG and FT misses but only attempts. Also there have been cases where a player has shot over 100 percent under TS% but in reality didn't hit 100 percent of his FG attempts. Here's an article that proves my point https://escobarmag.wordpress.com/201...tric-is-right/. If you look at that list George Hill is ranked higher than Lebron James which goes to show you the absurdity of TS%.
Another bull meaningless stat to prove how good a player is or is not. What happened to the old FG% and PPG along with other stats to prove your worth? That or who shows up in a game 6 or 7 to win? Those are stats I care about.
Are you a dumbass? You do understand that a made 3 point shot is worth 50% more than a made 2 point shot right? Thats why you can have a TS% above 100 on any giving night you stupid .![]()
Proving my point you are a lemming.
Noone cares about TS%
eFG% is better than TS%, which is loads better than FG%. Situational FG% is fine - based on type of game event, but it's a limited stat like batting average in baseball (where OBP and later OPS and now more advanced stats I don't even understand are king )
People are being ridiculous. TS% isn't an advanced stat. It's not trying to determine overall impact. It simply points out how many points a player scores per attempt. That has usefulness in context, just like all other stats.
Their hate of Kawhi turns them into Trump supporters who just ignore facts & replace them with false narratives.![]()
By the way, that article is ridiculously wrong in its interpretation of both stats. I feel that was done intentionally to try to sell their own stat, but they aren't breaking .
Still led us to pathetic seasons last two years with two first round exits...
I legitimately can't see any argument for why you should use FG% rather than TS% or eFG%.
Why would you not adjust for 3-pointers being worth an extra point? Curry shooting 50% isn't comparable to someone like Dwight Howard shooting 50%. One guy has over half of his attempts come from deep, while the other doesn't shoot 3s at all.
Player A and Player B both take 100 shots. Player A only shoots 3s, Player B only shoots 2s. If Player A shoots 43% on those shots, he's scoring 129 points. It would take Player B shooting over 64% to score that many points. This isn't some crazy advanced metric - it's common sense. 3 > 2.
As for FTs - they're a part of basketball. You can about guys like Harden all you want, but the point remains: being able to consistently get to the FT line and shoot FTs at a high rate is a tremendous skill to have. If you're trying to judge a player's total scoring efficiency (which is pretty much the point of TS%), I don't know why you'd want to exclude FTs. Player A and Player B are identical, but Player A takes 10 FTA per game and shoots 90% on them, while Player B takes 5 FTA per game and shoots 70% on them. Which player would you take?
I mean if you want to argue that TS% or eFG% aren't perfect, then that's one thing...but to advocate the use of FG% instead of those 2? Sorry, but you're clueless.
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If Kawhi ever starts getting calls... Look Out, NBA!![]()
What's your team bro? Last season wasn't first round exit.
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I can't take a metric that doesn't factor in FG and FT misses seriously. It's a stupid metric when you see a guy like George Hill ranked ahead of Lebron James or my personal favorite of seeing Richard Jefferson ranked ahead of Duncan.
Ohh we won the Memphis series, who were very nba team, excuse me, great for the wingstop!
I bet you just figured out we won against Memphis..
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Listen, this isn't a good argument. 1) Those metrics factor in misses. That article is misguided. 2) It's not supposed to "rank" players any more than FG% does. What it does do is reflect a reality that Hill was more efficient than James and that Jefferson was more efficient than Duncan. TS% is NOT an advanced stat. It's not an opinion that can be disagreed with in the same way that PER or RPM can.
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