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    Westbrook is 50. Just sayin'.

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    but but TP has one FMVP

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    Another Parker bashing thread created by a troll. Dwight being number 2 shows you how credible this advance stat is.

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    but...but... FG%

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    I wonder where fathead is rated...

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    Amazing how many lemmings are in this thread. TS% is garbage it doesn't factor in FG and FT misses but only attempts. Also there have been cases where a player has shot over 100 percent under TS% but in reality didn't hit 100 percent of his FG attempts. Here's an article that proves my point https://escobarmag.wordpress.com/201...tric-is-right/. If you look at that list George Hill is ranked higher than Lebron James which goes to show you the absurdity of TS%.

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    Amazing how many lemmings are in this thread. TS% is garbage it doesn't factor in FG and FT misses but only attempts. Also there have been cases where a player has shot over 100 percent under TS% but in reality didn't hit 100 percent of his FG attempts. Here's an article that proves my point https://escobarmag.wordpress.com/201...tric-is-right/. If you look at that list George Hill is ranked higher than Lebron James which goes to show you the absurdity of TS%.
    Another bull meaningless stat to prove how good a player is or is not. What happened to the old FG% and PPG along with other stats to prove your worth? That or who shows up in a game 6 or 7 to win? Those are stats I care about.

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    Amazing how many lemmings are in this thread. TS% is garbage it doesn't factor in FG and FT misses but only attempts. Also there have been cases where a player has shot over 100 percent under TS% but in reality didn't hit 100 percent of his FG attempts. Here's an article that proves my point https://escobarmag.wordpress.com/201...tric-is-right/. If you look at that list George Hill is ranked higher than Lebron James which goes to show you the absurdity of TS%.
    Are you a dumbass? You do understand that a made 3 point shot is worth 50% more than a made 2 point shot right? Thats why you can have a TS% above 100 on any giving night you stupid .

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    Are you a dumbass? You do understand that a made 3 point shot is worth 50% more than a made 2 point shot right? Thats why you can have a TS% above 100 on any giving night you stupid .
    Proving my point you are a lemming.

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    Noone cares about TS%

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    eFG% is better than TS%, which is loads better than FG%. Situational FG% is fine - based on type of game event, but it's a limited stat like batting average in baseball (where OBP and later OPS and now more advanced stats I don't even understand are king )

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    People are being ridiculous. TS% isn't an advanced stat. It's not trying to determine overall impact. It simply points out how many points a player scores per attempt. That has usefulness in context, just like all other stats.

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    People are being ridiculous. TS% isn't an advanced stat. It's not trying to determine overall impact. It simply points out how many points a player scores per attempt. That has usefulness in context, just like all other stats.
    Their hate of Kawhi turns them into Trump supporters who just ignore facts & replace them with false narratives.

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    Another Parker bashing thread created by a troll. Dwight being number 2 shows you how credible this advance stat is.



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    Amazing how many lemmings are in this thread. TS% is garbage it doesn't factor in FG and FT misses but only attempts. Also there have been cases where a player has shot over 100 percent under TS% but in reality didn't hit 100 percent of his FG attempts. Here's an article that proves my point https://escobarmag.wordpress.com/201...tric-is-right/. If you look at that list George Hill is ranked higher than Lebron James which goes to show you the absurdity of TS%.




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    By the way, that article is ridiculously wrong in its interpretation of both stats. I feel that was done intentionally to try to sell their own stat, but they aren't breaking .

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    Still led us to pathetic seasons last two years with two first round exits...

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    I legitimately can't see any argument for why you should use FG% rather than TS% or eFG%.

    Why would you not adjust for 3-pointers being worth an extra point? Curry shooting 50% isn't comparable to someone like Dwight Howard shooting 50%. One guy has over half of his attempts come from deep, while the other doesn't shoot 3s at all.

    Player A and Player B both take 100 shots. Player A only shoots 3s, Player B only shoots 2s. If Player A shoots 43% on those shots, he's scoring 129 points. It would take Player B shooting over 64% to score that many points. This isn't some crazy advanced metric - it's common sense. 3 > 2.

    As for FTs - they're a part of basketball. You can about guys like Harden all you want, but the point remains: being able to consistently get to the FT line and shoot FTs at a high rate is a tremendous skill to have. If you're trying to judge a player's total scoring efficiency (which is pretty much the point of TS%), I don't know why you'd want to exclude FTs. Player A and Player B are identical, but Player A takes 10 FTA per game and shoots 90% on them, while Player B takes 5 FTA per game and shoots 70% on them. Which player would you take?

    I mean if you want to argue that TS% or eFG% aren't perfect, then that's one thing...but to advocate the use of FG% instead of those 2? Sorry, but you're clueless.
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    If Kawhi ever starts getting calls... Look Out, NBA!

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    Still led us to pathetic seasons last two years with two first round exits...
    What's your team bro? Last season wasn't first round exit.


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    I legitimately can't see any argument for why you should use FG% rather than TS% or eFG%.

    Why would you not adjust for 3-pointers being worth an extra point? Curry shooting 50% isn't comparable to someone like Dwight Howard shooting 50%. One guy has over half of his attempts come from deep, while the other doesn't shoot 3s at all.

    Player A and Player B both take 100 shots. Player A only shoots 3s, Player B only shoots 2s. If Player A shoots 43% on those shots, he's scoring 129 points. It would take Player B shooting over 64% to score that many points. This isn't some crazy advanced metric - it's common sense. 3 > 2.

    As for FTs - they're a part of basketball. You can about guys like Harden all you want, but the point remains: being able to consistently get to the FT line and shoot FTs at a high rate is a tremendous skill to have. If you're trying to judge a player's total scoring efficiency (which is pretty much the point of TS%), I don't know why you'd want to exclude FTs. Player A and Player B are identical, but Player A takes 10 FTA per game and shoots 90% on them, while Player B takes 5 FTA per game and shoots 70% on them. Which player would you take?

    I mean if you want to argue that TS% or eFG% aren't perfect, then that's one thing...but to advocate the use of FG% instead of those 2? Sorry, but you're clueless.
    I can't take a metric that doesn't factor in FG and FT misses seriously. It's a stupid metric when you see a guy like George Hill ranked ahead of Lebron James or my personal favorite of seeing Richard Jefferson ranked ahead of Duncan.

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    What's your team bro? Last season wasn't first round exit.

    Ohh we won the Memphis series, who were very nba team, excuse me, great for the wingstop!

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    Ohh we won the Memphis series, who were very nba team, excuse me, great for the wingstop!
    I bet you just figured out we won against Memphis..


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    I can't take a metric that doesn't factor in FG and FT misses seriously. It's a stupid metric when you see a guy like George Hill ranked ahead of Lebron James or my personal favorite of seeing Richard Jefferson ranked ahead of Duncan.
    Listen, this isn't a good argument. 1) Those metrics factor in misses. That article is misguided. 2) It's not supposed to "rank" players any more than FG% does. What it does do is reflect a reality that Hill was more efficient than James and that Jefferson was more efficient than Duncan. TS% is NOT an advanced stat. It's not an opinion that can be disagreed with in the same way that PER or RPM can.

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