Westbrook And Spurs Need Each Other

[TD 21]

Ginobili retires and after a failed stab at Paul, they turn to Teodosic

Expect him to be the sixth man in '17-'18, playing roughly 20 mpg and playing point guard on offense, while defending shooting guards.

Are you talking about Teodosic possibly replacing manu, which would a catastrophic move IMO or Paddy who's also a free agent? The Spurs need some stability going forward and if they end up re-signing Paddy, can you even fathom a backcourt pairing of Mills and Teodisic? A second unit consisting of Dedmon, KA, Bertans, Mills and Teodisic would go down as one of the worst defensive rotations for the Spurs since the turn of the 21st century.

When's the last time they had a good defensive bench and what would lead you to believe they'd prioritize that over a Ginobili archetype? As usual, I think you're conflating what you want with what they'll (likely) do.

Bench defense isn't some crucial aspect to winning anyway, especially if you do a lot of mixing and matching, as they're known to do.

[SAGirl]

Westbrook is out of the picture from the next couple of seasons. Time to turn a page.

[gambit1990]

westbrook would rather take on a challenge than join a potential super team imo. that's why i don't see him coming here. would love to be wrong though.

right again, should be no surprise.

[Hoops Czar]

When's the last time they had a good defensive bench and what would lead you to believe they'd prioritize that over a Ginobili archetype? As usual, I think you're conflating what you want with what they'll (likely) do.

Bench defense isn't some crucial aspect to winning anyway, especially if you do a lot of mixing and matching, as they're known to do.

Maybe you should re-watch the 2013 NBA finals, the 2015 first round matchup versus the Clippers and most recently the 2016 Western Conference semis vs OKC and try to tell me bench defense doesn't matter. Ginobili in his own right was a pretty good defender and you're talking about replacing him with a poor man's Marco Belinelli. You don't think playing a net negative defender for 20-25 minutes/game with no back up in sight is going to make much of a difference?

Just because he can do some of things Manu can do on the offensive side of the ball doesn't make him Ginobili's archetype.

[TD 21]

Maybe you should re-watch the 2013 NBA finals, the 2015 first round matchup versus the Clippers and most recently the 2016 Western Conference semis vs OKC and try to tell me bench defense doesn't matter. Ginobili in his own right was a pretty good defender and you're talking about replacing him with a poor man's Marco Belinelli. You don't think playing a net negative defender for 20-25 minutes/game with no back up in sight is going to make much of a difference?

Just because he can do some of things Manu can do on the offensive side of the ball doesn't make him Ginobili's archetype.

I didn't say it "didn't matter", I said it's not crucial and the notion that they're going to find some do everything sixth man or prioritize defense in one is asinine.

Counting true bench players, since you apparently think all bench players play together at all times, how good defensively was the bench of the '12-'14 Spurs?

There is no true Ginobili archetype, but he's along the lines of one, the same way Gasol is to Duncan. He's a big guard, that can run the offense, play on or off the ball and defend shooting guards.

[HarlemHeat37]

[Canyonero]

So Westbrook to Spurs confirmed.

[Mr. Body]

He's pretending to find Kawhi hilarious. He's here.

[Ice009]

Cousins standing in the vicinity too. I'd wouldn't mind that as a new big three.

[RD2191]

He's pretending to find Kawhi hilarious. He's here.

[sasaint]

I don't know that Kawhi necessarily relishes the idea of being the face of the franchise as far as the media is concerned. He might welcome a teammate as outgoing as Westbrook. Duncan had Ginobili and Parker. Perhaps Kawhi could have his Westbrook. On the court is another issue, however...

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Westbrook is signing a 5 year $200+ mil extension with OKC in the summer. He's not going anywhere.

[Trueblood]

Westbrook is signing a 5 year $200+ mil extension with OKC in the summer. He's not going anywhere.

While I agree in theory, think Deandre Jordan. Nothing matters till the contact is signed

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

While I agree in theory, think Deandre Jordan. Nothing matters till the contact is signed

Not at all comparable - Jordan got the same money when he signed with the Clippers. If Westbrook doesn't sign the super extension, he'd have to wait an additional year to become a free agent (in 2018) and sign for $50 mil less.

[Trueblood]

Not at all comparable - Jordan got the same money when he signed with the Clippers. If Westbrook doesn't sign the super extension, he'd have to wait an additional year to become a free agent (in 2018) and sign for $50 mil less.

Super stars don't always follow the money. A lot of them leave money on the table. Sometimes it's for flexibility in negotiations (like LeBron) sometimes it's to join a team that you feel is a better contender (Durant) and sometimes it's to help the team be more compe ive (Duncan). My point being money isn't always the end all goal. While I do believe he's going to re-sign, my point still stands that we can't rule it out till the contract is official.

[gambit1990]

kawhi and westbrook would be lethal.

[TheGreatYacht]

Best big 2 since Duncan and Parker

[Gagnrath]

I don't think he goes back to OKC, don't know where he's going but after this year of being non-compe ive while essentially killing himself game after game I see him fleeing.

[gambit1990]

WB said he was good friends with kawhi the other night.

[EIC]

Him and Kawhi ain't gonna win with GSW, Houston, and soon the Lakers on the rise unless they team up.

[noles1983]

Dump TP and bring on Westbrick. Would rather pay him that paying 20mil for George freaking Hill

[Ice009]

WB said he was good friends with kawhi the other night.

What did he say exactly?

[Chinook]

Not that I really like him, but the question has to be if he's worth more or less than Paul got.

[look_at_g_shred]

Not that I really like him, but the question has to be if he's worth more or less than Paul got.

Send anyone not name Leonard/Murray

[dabom]

Westbrook just got MVP and way younger. No brainier.