Preseason Game Thread: Spurs vs Hawks: 10/8/16 @ 7:30 PM CT

[tmtcsc]

y'all are giving parker the benefit of the doubt for some reason.

it's a shame you guys don't remember how he played against memphis a few months ago. how quickly y'all forget...

Good Lord man, who is that girl in the gif?

[Raven]

I think it's pretty obvious Dedmon is facing massive odds to not be a complete bust signing.

[bklynspursfan]

I think Manu has his ego. It's not like he said he wants to feel important but doesn't know what that means. He knows what he means. It's disingenous to assume he didn't mean what he said. He could have said he wanted to be impactful, but he said he wanted to feel "important."

I do see his ego coming through with so many questions being asked by the press about Pop wanting to develop others. It's an uncomfortable question to begin with. But it does mean he's not going to defer to others and that is the truth.

Again didn't watch this game, but his use of the words wanting to feel important twice already is not a mistake.

I think ego is the wrong choice of words. He is a fierce compe ior. If he had such an ego, he would've left years ago to a team where his stats would better reflect the player he was.

He took 10 shots, but without watching it's tough to say anything about it. I saw early on, Pau was working in the post and kicking out to shooters. We just don't know the flow of the game. It's so early and people are forming such strong oponions that PATFO don't even have yet lol

Manu will be who he is. If he feels he needs to score, he'll attack. If he needs to be more of a facilitator he will do that it doesn't mean Anderson or anyone else is less important or anything, but that's just the compe or Manu is, and he has Pop's trust to go out and do what's best for the team

[dabom]

Manu has an "ego" but went to the bench in his prime.

[mbass]

I think ego is the wrong choice of words. He is a fierce compe ior. If he had such an ego, he would've left years ago to a team where his stats would better reflect the player he was.

He took 10 shots, but without watching it's tough to say anything about it. I saw early on, Pau was working in the post and kicking out to shooters. We just don't know the flow of the game. It's so early and people are forming such strong oponions that PATFO don't even have yet lol

Manu will be who he is. If he feels he needs to score, he'll attack. If he needs to be more of a facilitator he will do that it doesn't mean Anderson or anyone else is less important or anything, but that's just the compe or Manu is, and he has Pop's trust to go out and do what's best for the team

[Mugen]

Looks like Mugen went to the game, tbh...

It was a great experience tbh...

[BD24]

So I haven't gotten to watch either preseason game yet. Seems like Bertrans played well this game though. How slow does he look out there? Like Kyle Anderson slow?

[sasaint]

I think it's pretty obvious Dedmon is facing massive odds to not be a complete bust signing.

It is admittedly too early to call, but it is not looking good. Basically, the Spurs have one true, "willing" center who has all the earmarks of a bust and a slew of PF variants. To me that suggests the possibility of a rare Spurs trade.

[SAGirl]

I think ego is the wrong choice of words. He is a fierce compe ior. If he had such an ego, he would've left years ago to a team where his stats would better reflect the player he was.

He took 10 shots, but without watching it's tough to say anything about it. I saw early on, Pau was working in the post and kicking out to shooters. We just don't know the flow of the game. It's so early and people are forming such strong oponions that PATFO don't even have yet lol

Manu will be who he is. If he feels he needs to score, he'll attack. If he needs to be more of a facilitator he will do that it doesn't mean Anderson or anyone else is less important or anything, but that's just the compe or Manu is, and he has Pop's trust to go out and do what's best for the team

35% usage. Bigger than Kawhi, bigger than LMA. Whatever, I think it's just one game but that's definitely too high.

[gambit1990]

Good Lord man, who is that girl in the gif?

this is her around a decade later:


i just made that gif

her name is alizee

[SAGirl]

I think it's pretty obvious Dedmon is facing massive odds to not be a complete bust signing.

Anthony the first to get in the game says it all. The concern is real.

[bklynspursfan]

35% usage. Bigger than Kawhi, bigger than LMA. Whatever, I think it's just one game but that's definitely too high.

It's pre season game #1 for most of the rotational guys. It's not too high, nothing for these guys matters, it's about getting in basketball shape again and starting to learn some tendencies. And again without watching the totality of the game, there's really no room to form any kind of valid criticism or judgment on how much a guy shot.

If you think be has a 35% usg cause of his ego though, I feel that's just wrong, and would respectfully and emphatically disagree. Manu is not that type of guy. Never has been, and I don't just cause Pop might player Anderson or Simmons more means his "ego" will make him play out of character. Playing with no ego is what made this our big 3 so special and unique for so many years

Like Pop once said "He's Manu Ginobili"

[SAGirl]

It is admittedly too early to call, but it is not looking good. Basically, the Spurs have one true, "willing" center who has all the earmarks of a bust and a slew of PF variants. To me that suggests the possibility of a rare Spurs trade.

I agree.

[gambit1990]

Manu has an "ego" but went to the bench in his prime.

if manu's ego is so big, then what does that have to say about someone who slept with their teammate's wife?

[SAGirl]

It's pre season game #1 for most of the rotational guys. It's not too high, nothing for these guys matters, it's about getting in basketball shape again and starting to learn some tendencies. And again without watching the totality of the game, there's really no room to form any kind of valid criticism or judgment on how much a guy shot.

If you think be has a 35% usg cause of his ego though, I feel that's just wrong, and would respectfully and emphatically disagree. Manu is not that type of guy. Never has been, and I don't just cause Pop might player Anderson or Simmons more means his "ego" will make him play out of character. Playing with no ego is what made this our big 3 so special and unique for so many years

Like Pop once said "He's Manu Ginobili"

Hopefully you are right. Again it's just one game and he's getting his game shape. But I have my concerns about it. He said he's looking to distribute more but isn't. It won't end well bc he was 16% usage in the playoffs and the other guys need to grow. Hopefully he doesn't go Kobe retirement tour. Though it doesn't matter if the team is a pretender. In that case let him shoot whatever.

But watch out for the examples being set for Dijon.

[gambit1990]

It is admittedly too early to call, but it is not looking good. Basically, the Spurs have one true, "willing" center who has all the earmarks of a bust and a slew of PF variants. To me that suggests the possibility of a rare Spurs trade.

in the summer i posted about a cause for concern in regards to our big man rotation.

[sasaint]

I agree.

More and more I lament that the Spurs did not sign RoLo and another good rotation player instead of LMA.

[sasaint]

in the summer i posted about a cause for concern in regards to our big man rotation.

In the summer I posted that "as Deadman goes, so go the Spurs." Depending on him to be the only "true" center relegates the Spurs to the pretenders' tier.

[TrainOfThought5]

I agree.

im willing to give up substantial resources to secure Okafor or Noel.

[gambit1990]

In the summer I posted that "as Deadman goes, so go the Spurs." Depending on him to be the only "true" center relegates the Spurs to the pretenders' tier.

yeah, i said that him panning out would be crucial.

people were trying to tell me lma and gasol would be good enough defensively...

[Raven]

It is admittedly too early to call, but it is not looking good. Basically, the Spurs have one true, "willing" center who has all the earmarks of a bust and a slew of PF variants. To me that suggests the possibility of a rare Spurs trade.

Gasol is really a center though, he always was.

[Raven]

im willing to give up substantial resources to secure Okafor or Noel.

why would you want Noel... Undersized skinny center with no skills and just athleticism with massive injury flags...

[SAGirl]

More and more I lament that the Spurs did not sign RoLo and another good rotation player instead of LMA.

I miss Boban. Heck I miss Baynes. Spurs needed to bring Milutinov in, not Livio. Sorry Chinook. They brought Livio bc he was in the queue sooner, but they needed a center and still do.

The bench is worse than last season. Dedmon is a concern. I still have concerns with Lee in a two big line-up. I think he's playing bc Dedmon has been a big disappointment and they need Lee to rebound for him and make plays in the paint. They also can't go with a full perimeter lineup bc Simmons is busting too (compared to Pop's expectations). The answer might be Bertans but Popsaid he doesn't look at the rookies this early bc he doesn't want to form an opinion this early (and though he didn't say it, rooks will make mistakes) so he prefers to bring them in slower.

Lee vs Bertans doesn't matter if Dedmon is a total bust.

[sasaint]

im willing to give up substantial resources to secure Okafor or Noel.

Frankly, I don't really want either player - especially not at the expense of "substantial resources." Noel has the defense, Okafor the offense. Neither seems likely to develop into a Very Good/Great all-around NBA player. If I had to choose one, I'd take Noel - but not at a premium.

[sasaint]

I miss Boban. Heck I miss Baynes. Spurs needed to bring Milutinov in, not Livio. Sorry Chinook. They brought Livio bc he was in the queue sooner, but they needed a center and still do.

The bench is worse than last season. Dedmon is a concern. I still have concerns with Lee in a two big line-up. I think he's playing bc Dedmon has been a big disappointment and they need Lee to rebound for him and make plays in the paint. They also can't go with a full perimeter lineup bc Simmons is busting too (compared to Pop's expectations). The answer might be Bertans but Popsaid he doesn't look at the rookies this early bc he doesn't want to form an opinion this early (and though he didn't say it, rooks will make mistakes) so he prefers to bring them in slower.

Lee vs Bertans doesn't matter if Dedmon is a total bust.

BINGO! A lot of people on this board are all on board trading away too much for Okafor or Noel. Just because Deadman is a bust doesn't mean the team would benefit from trading away too much for one of those guys.

P.S. I miss Baynes more than Boban, but I do wish we fans would have had the luxury of seeing Boban develop another season (at least) in SA.