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You said her sources are probably with the Celtics.
I showed you proof she has close sources with the Spurs. No other way she writes an article like that.
If you read what I posted closely, I am not saying she made stuff up. I am saying her source put stuff out there to depress Aldridge's character bc the Celtics have picked up the phone to talk to PATFO and RC's prize for Aldridge is unnacceptable to them.
Celtics lately have been trying to fleece several teams so I would not be surprised if this is some hardball by the Celtics. Jackie just got the impression from her source, her source is the one who is making up, or exxagerating at any rate.
You said her sources are probably with the Celtics.
I showed you proof she has close sources with the Spurs. No other way she writes an article like that.
She broke the "story" in the context of the Celtics. And this is the same kind of Ainge has been rumored to pull with many trade targets. Could it be from SA? Sure. Is that likely? Nope.
So really this all comes from that dude's opinion piece right? Lol What the ?
I never said who said what. Or where she got her story from. I don't know that. You don't know that. None of us know that. I simply pointed out proof that she has close ties with the Spurs. She has credibility and she has ties with the Spurs.
That, old-fashioned confirmation bias and a tendency for folks to trade in reason for credibility.
And most other people with ties to the Spurs are denying this, so it stands to reason that her source came from somewhere else and is not completely credible.
You honestly think Spurs would admit the truth behind this if it was true? If so, you're wrong.
That doesn't mean her source is from the Spurs. Why would it? Why would the Spurs disparage their own player? Use common sense dude.
That is not good reasoning. You're acting like they'd tell Jackie but not anyone else. Once you start assuming there are leaks, you have to go with it
I'm not acting like anything. I'm not saying she got her information from Pop or RC. , she could have gotten her information from anyone in Pops circle, Pops circle isn't just inside the Spurs practice facility. If you read the article she obviously has close ties with not only RC, but his broad circle around the NBA and outside the NBA.
Spurs would never admit the truth behind it even if it was the truth. Most of these outlets, like Joe Reinagel, asked the Spurs or their sources about it AFTER the fact. Of course the sources will deny it. Admitting truth, would put them in the worst situation possible going into the season. From the locker room to the leverage other teams would then have in a trade.
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What if it was from someone who has close ties with Pop and RC but they aren't affiliated with the Spurs? From that column, she got quotes from all of his close circle, not all of them are currently employed with the Spurs genius.
If there is trouble in paradise then Pop and LMA are very good actors. They were quite amiable at the scrimmage and having a good time.
You mean the article with no quotes from the Spurs organization directly for the interview because he wouldn't talk to her? I'm glad Brown and Gentry would talk with her.
see this is all your speculation right here.
You want this to be true sooo much that you will stretch the boundaries of what makes sense to fit what you want to be true and you always want to be right.
It doesn't make sense for any of this to come from the Spurs dude. What makes sense is that Ainge and crew (someone within their circle) placed rumors out there to depress Aldridge's value bc they have talked to RC and he's got a steep price. Aldridge is not being shopped so much as he's simply not in Kawhi's untradeable sphere. So RC will listen to offers but you better offer some ransom as far as RC is concerned.
And to the Celtics he's not worth a ransom. Considering Celtics' somewhat open attempts to fleece other organizations recently, and their hardball tactics, it's actually very believable that they have inquired about Aldridge and want him but are not about to give up a ransom when they don't think that highly of him to begin with, so they have chatted behind closed doors about the whole thing, including why they don't think he's worth a ransom.
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It's also common practice to deny rumors even if they're true because they can disrupt team chemistry and team morale. The Spurs denied rumors they were shopping Tony Parker back in 2011 but it was later found out they clearly were. Jackie doesn't have a history of making stuff up for the pure sake of public publicity and internet page views. It doesn't mean her sources is less credible because it came from outside the organization.
I'm simply saying you can't discredit her. There's proof she has close ties with the Spurs' circle and the Spurs. The only other writers who have written anything as in depth on the Spurs is Johnny Ludden and Buck Harvey. She's not some clown covering the Celtics making up on Bleacher Report. To discredit her and saying she's lying and believing Joe Reinagel is naive.
And what you're saying isn't speculation? Implying Ainge and crew devised this plan to make up rumors to sabotage the Spurs and Aldridges' value is a lot more of a stretch. Jackie has ties nationally, including in San Antonio, hard to imagine she'd be willing to ruin her relationships by teaming with Ainge to sabotage the Spurs.
Again I'm not saying Spurs want to trade him because of what she said, I'm simply saying you can't discredit the information just because Joe Reinagel and the local reporters said Spurs denied it.
Apparently you didn't read the article or the quotes from R.C.
Nice try again.
I am not discrediting her, but I am not spinning that up any further than what she said either, which you are. She made no mention of anyone within the Spurs organization and all of this was in the context of the discussion of trades.
I speculated a likely scenario within the context of trade discussions. It doesn't mean that is right either, but it's more plausible than the Spurs or somewhat close to them disparaging their second best player publicly dude. They are already very hermetic as they are.
This is fairly ignorant. She wrote a piece on the new coach of the men's national team for ESPN at ESPN behest. She did an excellent job considering that the Spurs themselves wouldn't talk to her.
The issue here is that you cannot credit her. You are the one editing MYSA piece leaving out salient information and trying as hard as you can to confirm your bias.
I read the one blurb from RC too. I read the article when it was written. Now please quote the passage that makes you believe they granted her an interview with Buford. I won't hold my breath.
Either you are monumentally stupid, have some form of mental re ation, or you are trolling.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that she got good information. And she's far from the only media member who can claim ties to someone or who's written an in-depth piece about the Spurs or members of the organization. For all we know, it was Pop's/RC's friends and families who gave most of that info. Does that make them privy to front-office moves?
This is confirmation bias. There's no reason at all to assume that no one had talked to the Spurs about this outside Jackie and Lowe. It is significantly more likely that sources with something to gain leaked that they had talked to the PATFO about LMA and weren't immediately rebuffed. And Boston could definitely offer enough for me to not hang up the phone on them immediately. That doesn't put Aldridge on the block -- which is the spin of this thread, mind you.Spurs would never admit the truth behind it even if it was the truth. Most of these outlets, like Joe Reinagel, asked the Spurs or their sources about it AFTER the fact. Of course the sources will deny it. Admitting truth, would put them in the worst situation possible going into the season. From the locker room to the leverage other teams would then have in a trade.
What's going on here is a lot of "putting two and two together" is being passed off as evidence. LMA not being happy with how his first year went is understandable. People combine that with his history to suggest the Spurs promised him that he'd be over Kawhi. They combine that with teams calling the Spurs (assuming they'd want to tank because of GS and Tim retiring), and you get that they were trying to trade him because he's unhappy with not being over Kawhi.
You're wrong in both sentences.
1. In that article she shared in-depth information and quotes from R.C himself --- but of course she didn't get it from R.C herself right?
2. When Jabari Young first came out with the article, what I quoted is all of what he said in the sentence. Go read his Twitter timeline, he made an update a few hours later and added the sentence after what I quoted.
Nice try again.
Yes it does. It doesn't dismiss them altogether, but it does call the whole thing into question. Folks outside the Spurs organization would only know because of specific events and would likely have agendas.
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