I shared this last night and had a wrong le, I missedthe word "after" this season.
Anyways, the more I think about it, I am almost convinced he's not brought back for all the reasons here, between more lucrative offers, to better roles, to Spurs wanting to go a different direction, etc.
Mills has epitomized to a degree what playing in a role means. Other backup PG (Schroder, Reggie Jackson) have had dramas related to personal ambition in their prior teams and either got the starting PG traded (Teague), or got themselves traded to a team that would start them (Jackson). Mills got injured at the worst possible time, coming off a career season and the championship in 2014. I remember there were rumors about him going to NY b4 his injury was known.
Anyways, I don't think he has been held back. Quite the contrary he has played in the best possible system for his talent. He's able to play off Manu who complements him perfectly and from what I saw last season, got a large share of the bench ball handling to develop his real PG skills, as well as many good shots for himself. He's not spotted up spacing for other ppl, rather he's handling the ball, coming off screens firing, darting around the court to open spaces, while playing with others who are capable of finding him and might even be looking for him in good spots all the time, etc. He's been happy and a significant contributor to the team and his defensive deficiencies are better hidden in the bench, but to get paid and achieve personal goals it could be time to move on.
Last edited by SAGirl; 10-25-2016 at 12:16 PM.
He is one of the best scorers on the team besides kawhi. 60%TS the last 4 playoffs. Ya cucks complaining about his shooting when he shows up in the playoffs. Like the Spurs always gonna win 50 games. This guy is an efficient scorer unlike some higher contracts on this team.
Anat anyone thinking Manu or anyone else makes him who he is. He is a scorer and a leader for the Spurs. Pop already talked about his leadership for the Spurs. Patty ain't gonna anyone's wife too.
If Patty leaves it's fine. But to character assassinate him is ing ludicrous. ing s.
How the are people being dismissive of patty when he already gave the Spurs a really low ball contract. 4 year 40 mill is ing cheap for patty already. He talks like Manu. Smart and respective all the time. GSH a .
Always the king of your own alternate universe. Patty didn't "give the Spurs a really low ball contract", you ing simian. He had seriously ed up his shoulder, and had to have an operation. There was no bidding war for him, because nobody knew how he would come back from it. The Spurs gave him a respectable contract, especially since he couldn't even get back onto the court until after Christmas - and right about then Patty was damned glad to get it. There weren't a bunch of teams lined up to pay him more.
And, as usual, you argue about that I never said. If he can get more elsewhere, good for him. I just said he shouldn't talk about like that publicly just before the season starts. You're like a ing dog. Point something out to you, and you always look at the finger.
Again Spurs players usually don't shop themselves because they want to help the FO. Just like many ing examples on the Spurs you stupid .
Patty is just like Manu. Manu would have answered the same ing way you stupid piece of . He isn't a ing superstar. This isn't a distraction, got.
I like Nerlens Noel, but depending on the health of Parker/Ginobili and the early play of Lapprovittola and Murray, a simple swap of Mills for Robert Covington and a second round pick would work for both teams.
Covington is a useful defender to have against the Warriors and Cavs. Patty's agent would approve of the deal. His client could stuff his stats heading into free agency.
I'd also explore Patty Mills for Willie Cauley-Stein or Doug McDermott.
Last edited by tav1; 10-25-2016 at 11:20 AM.
He would've been paid a few years ago if it wasn't for his shoulder injury which scared teams away, which is the only reason the spurms got him back. He's gone next season as he's worth way more than a ty $3m per year.
It would be a shame to lose Patty. He's been great for team chemistry and a clutch shooter.
Patty does have some play making skills. He's improved that facet of his game greatly since his rookie season. It's just his offense overshadows it.
Also, Patty's a pretty average defender. He's not even the worst defender at his position on the team. Parker ranked dead last on the Spurs in defensive rating. If his defense is 'atrocious', what the would you call Parker's defense?
You are right on those points. On the other hand, the Spurs did sign Patty to a good "we believe in you" contract when no other organization was willing to. That was a pretty good expression of the Spurs' loyalty, and I hope he does the team a solid next off-season as Danny did last off-season. I like Patty a lot, and I would hate to see him leave. I expect him to have a great season.Again Spurs players usually don't shop themselves because they want to help the FO. Just like many ing examples on the Spurs you stupid .
Patty is just like Manu. Manu would have answered the same ing way you stupid piece of . He isn't a ing superstar. This isn't a distraction, got.
Anyone that pays Mills big money to be a PG is going to make a mistake. He was very mediocre last year and unless he shoots lights out this year, not sure he is getting a big contract offer.
Again Spurs players usually don't shop themselves because they want to help the FO. Just like many ing examples on the Spurs you stupid .
Patty is just like Manu. Manu would have answered the same ing way you stupid piece of . He isn't a ing superstar. This isn't a distraction, got.
Translation: "I ed up saying Patty gave the Spurs a really low ball contract, so I better throw some other on the fan as a smoke screen."
The guy you think should be our starting PG is telling people that he might be leaving to go start somewhere else, and it isn't a distraction?
I guess you're just in full-re mode because the season starts tonight, and Halloween is in less than a week. I forgive you.
BTW - here's a little gift, just for you, since you won't be able to trick or treat at my house this year:
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/2...ba-free-agency
"It's unclear if Mills' market would have been greater if not for his shoulder injury. The Knicks*showed early interest, but backed away after dealing for Jose Calderon. If healthy, other teams may have viewed him as a starting-quality guard and driven his price up. Instead, Mills stayed with the Spurs on an appropriate salary for a backup."
That is exactly how I see Patty. If Tony slips much at all, I look for Patty to supplant him in the starting lineup.
I honestly believe Phil Jackson has Mills on his radar is would be perfect in their system with Melo and that 7ft freak. Rose contract would be expired and unless he gets back to some sort of starter form, I think he is gone. We were lucky to have Mills have the shoulder injury after his excellent 2014 playoff run, it saved us a lot of cap space.
That's one team. Do you know if Patty shopped around all the teams? No you don't you stupid . He is being payed peanuts to play 6th man role. To score the in ball.
That's one team. Do you know if Patty shopped around all the teams? No you don't you stupid . He is being payed peanuts to play 6th man role. To score the in ball.
Well I haven't talked with his agent, if that's what you mean. But it was pretty well understood at the time, by anyone who didn't have his head up his ass. The contract he got was more than fair at the time he got it.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...s-and-analysis
Dutton's report*indicates*"up to" a seven-month absence, while Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports cited sources indicating a March return was more likely.*
With players like Ben Gordon, Shaun Livingston and Jodie Meeks signing in recent days for deals well above their expected market value, a healthy Mills might have expected a salary above the mid-level exception. The injury instead instantly dwindled his number of suitors. Teams are not typically keen on handing out high-salaried deals to players who can't contribute until the trade deadline—especially ones with only one season of above-replacement-level play.
And here's a quote from Patty himself:
"I haven't been through free-agency before; having this injury changes everything again," Mills told Fairfax Media. "I have no idea how it works, but I'm guessing it will affect (my next deal). "But it's out of my hands. It is what it is. We've got to make the most of the situation and move on."
Shouldn't you stop now? Your ass must really sting.
Trade him for Okafor asap
Mills should thrive in a triangle. I can see that happening.
Of course an injury changes everything. It would sound idiotic to say otherwise. I wasn't arguing if the shoulder injury dropped his value. I was talking about giving a discount on top of the injury you ing .
He does score a lot in FIBA. I just think his skills are more of a SG and due to this physical limitations he would have had a much harder time had not been for the Spurs.
That said, I agree. If he can actually get a contract and role like that, he should probably take it.
Of course an injury changes everything. It would sound idiotic to say otherwise. I wasn't arguing if the shoulder injury dropped his value. I was talking about giving a discount on top of the injury you ing .
i like patty.
if trading him meant i could package parker as well... i would do it.
"Such a distraction" "I'm a whiny lil " - GSH
I was talking about giving a discount on top of the injury you ing .
So prove it. Show me something that says Patty gave a discount on top of the injury. Anything.
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