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    people have good reasons to vote against HRC. even Bernie Sanders says he doesn't think most Trump voters are racist and sexist.

    demonizing political opponents is part of the problem, not the solution.

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    so trump supporters are black?

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    people have good reasons to vote against HRC. even Bernie Sanders says he doesn't think most Trump voters are racist and sexist.

    demonizing political opponents is part of the problem, not the solution.
    Dominant reasons are

    1) misogyny (and the low-education, low-wage, low-info white guys say "we had a knitter, now we gonna have a ? no!")

    2) the slander, innuendo, bogus/fruitless "investigations" for 25 years, so much bull smoek and NO FIRE.

    The reasons people are for voting for Trash are ALL negative. They deserve to be demonized.

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    the policies of both parties have left Trumpistas behind, and the party elite on both sides continues to look down their nose at them.

    these are people both sides need to win over. the nomination of Trump signals the end of the Republican Party as we knew it.

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    the end of the Democratic Party as we knew it can't be far behind. it's already broken, it just hasn't realized it yet.

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    the end of the Democratic Party as we knew it can't be far behind. it's already broken, it just hasn't realized it yet.
    Both parties are financed by, s to BigFinance/BigCorp/1%. Neither one give a about the non-wealthy.

    Both will survive, winning some elections/losing some elections, because they don't GAF about citizens, only BigDonors. They all run to get (more) wealthy.

    But the two parties aren't equivalent. Repugs are definitely much further down the anti-democratic, depravity, venality scale.

    btw, there is NO dislodging them.

    Trash is a protest candidate, but he's 100% elite, moneyed Repug establishment.
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    We're headed towards a four party (at least) system in the next 40 years.

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    We're headed towards a four party (at least) system in the next 40 years.
    Not without major changes to how our elections are conducted unless you expect the House of Representatives to choose our President every 4 years.

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    Not without major changes to how our elections are conducted unless you expect the House of Representatives to choose our President every 4 years.
    It's going to happen because it's the will of the people. The trump and Bernie supporters aren't going to stay under their respective tents too much longer. They can raise enough money and organize without help from the major parties. This election, IMO, has proven that

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    It's going to happen because it's the will of the people. The trump and Bernie supporters aren't going to stay under their respective tents too much longer. They can raise enough money and organize without help from the major parties. This election, IMO, has proven that
    The ing will of the people doesn't mean .

    Four parties in a nation whose cons ution guarantees a two party state is ridiculous.

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    The ing will of the people doesn't mean .

    Four parties in a nation whose cons ution guarantees a two party state is ridiculous.
    Cons ution doesn't put a limit on the amount of political parties. I don't think it sets a minimum either

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    I could see a split. I think it will start at the State/Local level, though. Probably a while before a 3rd Party candidate has a chance at POTUS.

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    Cons ution doesn't put a limit on the amount of political parties. I don't think it sets a minimum either
    The cons ution does mandate the electoral college as the way we decide our elections. See the election of 1824 as an example of how a 4 party election would work.

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    Cons ution doesn't put a limit on the amount of political parties. I don't think it sets a minimum either
    Yes it does. If there are 3+ parties who split the electoral vote so that no one gets 270 whichever party controls congress elects their man president. This will be a two party nation until the government is overthrown and a new cons ution is written.

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    Demoncratic thugs upset that Appeals courts denying their effort to prevent the polls from being reffereed. Maybe if their rigging and collusion wasnt so blatant and obvious, there might not be judges that agree the polls should be refereed.Dirty, disgusting, zero-moral Demoncrat.

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    Yes it does. If there are 3+ parties who split the electoral vote so that no one gets 270 whichever party controls congress elects their man president. This will be a two party nation until the government is overthrown and a new cons ution is written.
    That will never happen.

    1. Your Liberal Facist Dictators are unabashedly making a systematic move to strip the necessities to make a revolt possible from the citizens.

    2 Most Americans are too stupid, lazy and complacent with thieir lives and dont question the government unless the media tells them. Unfortunately, the media is controller predmoninantly by Liberal money masters.

    This has been a systemic degradation of American society for decades now. A new revolt will never happen with such an over en led, stupid, lazy culture that worships elitists icons.

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    That will never happen.

    1. Your Liberal Facist Dictators are unabashedly making a systematic move to strip the necessities to make a revolt possible from the citizens.

    2 Most Americans are too stupid, lazy and complacent with thieir lives and dont question the government unless the media tells them. Unfortunately, the media is controller predmoninantly by Liberal money masters.

    This has been a systemic degradation of American society for decades now. A new revolt will never happen with such an over en led, stupid, lazy culture that worships elitists icons.
    Fascinating rant ...

    What sort of revolt would you want to participate in, and how have the "fascists" obstructed you?
    What specific degradations have happened to society and when?

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    It's going to happen because it's the will of the people.
    Holy , you STILL believe this myth?

    the "will of people" means unless it puts butts in Congressional seats.

    The Repug / Dem establishments really don't give a about "will of the people" who are effectively disenfranchised:

    Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-no-longer-democracy

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    Best election ever


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    Yes it does. If there are 3+ parties who split the electoral vote so that no one gets 270 whichever party controls congress elects their man president. This will be a two party nation until the government is overthrown and a new cons ution is written.
    The cons ution has a remedy for a situation when no clear winner exists

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    The cons ution has a remedy for a situation when no clear winner exists
    Yeah the house votes, so whichever of the two parties controls it elects their candidate. The founding fathers ensured there could never be a strong third party.

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    Yeah the house votes, so whichever of the two parties controls it elects their candidate. The founding fathers ensured there could never be a strong third party.
    Founding fathers never envisioned twitter or the internet

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    Melania Trump Reported To US Customs For Immigration Violations

    After it was reported that Mrs. Trump worked in the US illegally before becoming a citizen, the wife of the Republican presidential nominee was reported to US Customs for immigration violations.


    The Democratic Coalition Against Trump said in a statement:

    The Democratic Coalition Against Trump reported Melania Trump to U.S. Customs and Border Protection on Sunday afternoon after reports surfaced that Mrs. Trump was paid to work while she was in the United States on a B-1/B-2 visitor visa, before she obtained a H-1 work visa.

    According to a statement released by Melania Trump’s immigration attorney in October, Mrs. Trump arrived in the United States on a visitor visa on August 27, 1996, and received her work visa on October 18, 1996.

    Recent do ents that surfaced this week state that Mrs. Trump was paid $20,056 for work performed between September 10 and October 15, 1996, meaning that she was working illegally in the United States during that time.


    “We first questioned Melania Trump’s immigration status back in August, when the anti-immigrant rhetoric coming from Donald had reached its peak,” said Scott Dworkin, Senior Advisor to the Democratic Coalition.

    “I am saddened by how Donald has acted over the course of this campaign.

    Instead of offering a solution to our immigration challenges like Secretary Clinton has, Donald has called people seeking a better life in the United States murderers and rapists.

    And all the while, his wife spent time in this country as one of those illegal immigrants, seeking a better life.”

    The Trump family business is reported to have lost at least $800 million due to the presidential campaign.Trump’s own daughter refused to allow the most recent ad that she did for her father to be sent to the media in press materials because being associated with the campaign is bad for her business.

    Melania Trump being reported to US Customs is the final blow to a presidential campaign that has been full of hypocrisy and inconsistencies.

    Donald Trump appears to hate illegal immigrants, except for the one who worked in the US illegally before she became his third wife.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/...iticus+USA+%29

    I'm immensely impressed how thoroughly the ignorant, white male base vetted their candidate Trash as the best choice to inflame their basest their emotions.



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