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    All this hysteria and still no iron-clad, undeniable proof that the Russians "hacked" anything at all. The liberals who peddle this drivel are almost as bad as the Pizzagate nutjobs.
    Russia still though. Obama really pussed out against Putin and co. Not saying I even care about Ukraine at all. Just that every Russian dictator for 500 years plays the exact same play (look tough and suppress any domestic dissent) from the exact same playbook (we are too big and ty to occupy and if 10, 20, 30 million of our own ppl die in x war, well, wont be the first time).

    Russia has never been ahead of the curve in any fashion. A large chunk of their 10k ty nukes probably would blow up before exiting the potato farm.
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    It depends on the goal. It would be irresponsible to not make them if the goal included misleading folks.

    It's so much easier to understand things if you don't put yourself in the picture.
    I agree, but that gets hard to do at times. I do attempt such things, and sometimes fail. I clearly see there are those who either cannot, or choose not to try to see past their bias.

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    "Obama really pussed out against Putin"

    Macho man, what would you have done "against Putin" in Ukraine?

    I guess you have manspreaded like Pootin? that's being real tough.

    Do you know it was US/EU that got the Ukraine nazis to overthrow the Ukraine guy who was a Putin puppet? that the overthrow caused Pootin to push into Ukraine, take Crimea?

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/1...t-nuland-made/

    Nuland is married to neocon extremist Kagan, who founded, with ALWAYS-WRONG Billy Kristol, neocon PNAC that lied USA into Iraq for oil?
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    Hypothetically speaking, if the Russians had exclusively leaked information about Trump, would you have had this same at ude towards it?
    I can answer that for you. no, he wouldn't.

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    I can answer that for you. no, he wouldn't.
    And there are people on this site an elsewhere that would drop it if Hillary had won. The good thing is the intelligence agencies have not. This clearly needs to be looked into. This could be a major problem. It already has been with other countries (China, North Korea). We got goofball trumpets that want to look the other way.

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    Well, once the media got involved, the facts will never be found. Or at least are very unlikely. Whomever did hack them has likely crawled back into the shadows. Leaking the information was a bad move for someone wanting to find the truth, so apparently, the propaganda was more important than the fact finding.
    So exactly how do you obtain information on events you are not there to witness?

    THE MEDIA...

    What fkn cowards way of giving up. How do you even know information was leaked...? THE MEDIA.

    THE MEDIA, is the media that does not fit your worldview.

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    I agree, but that gets hard to do at times. I do attempt such things, and sometimes fail. I clearly see there are those who either cannot, or choose not to try to see past their bias.
    Once you realize that news outlets are profit driven businesses paid by click count you can understand that anything that creates sensationalism increases profit.

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    Once you realize that news outlets are profit driven businesses paid by click count you can understand that anything that creates sensationalism increases profit.
    I've known that for decades. That's a primary reason why so many stories are a mix of fact and fiction.

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    "Obama really pussed out against Putin"

    Macho man, what would you have done "against Putin" in Ukraine?

    I guess you have manspreaded like Pootin? that's being real tough.

    Do you know it was US/EU that got the Ukraine nazis to overthrow the Ukraine guy who was a Putin puppet? that the overthrow caused Pootin to push into Ukraine, take Crimea?

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/1...t-nuland-made/

    Nuland is married to neocon extremist Kagan, who founded, with ALWAYS-WRONG Billy Kristol, neocon PNAC that lied USA into Iraq for oil?
    I specifically said i dont care about Ukraine shillbot.

    The Cold war coukd basically be described in 1 sentence as: JFK called Kruschev's bluff and the Soviet Union never found its balls again.

    World War 2: 30 million dead, coldest winter in a century IE who cares hiw many serfs die, youll never occupy this arctic wasteland

    WW1: Hindenburg calls Czar's bluff, Russian Empire never finds its balls again.

    2010s: Obama sanctions Russian and Ukrainian serfs to no effect. Let's Russia intervene and dictate Syrian conflict. Hillary ing Clinton understands said playbook better than O in her call for no fly zone.

    Trump's buddy buddy is more disturbing than anything; indeed, i find it more alarming than any other major issue how the roles of the 99% are increasingly service related. I see increasing ecomonic serfdom (of a 21st century variety) as the greatest and yet most invisible and least understood threat to Americans' futures.

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    Because the MSM has such a great track record


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    I've known that for decades. That's a primary reason why so many stories are a mix of fact and fiction.
    The click count concept only came about in the past decade.

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    I specifically said i dont care about Ukraine shillbot.

    The Cold war coukd basically be described in 1 sentence as: JFK called Kruschev's bluff and the Soviet Union never found its balls again.

    World War 2: 30 million dead, coldest winter in a century IE who cares hiw many serfs die, youll never occupy this arctic wasteland

    WW1: Hindenburg calls Czar's bluff, Russian Empire never finds its balls again.

    2010s: Obama sanctions Russian and Ukrainian serfs to no effect. Let's Russia intervene and dictate Syrian conflict. Hillary ing Clinton understands said playbook better than O in her call for no fly zone.

    Trump's buddy buddy is more disturbing than anything; indeed, i find it more alarming than any other major issue how the roles of the 99% are increasingly service related. I see increasing ecomonic serfdom (of a 21st century variety) as the greatest and yet most invisible and least understood threat to Americans' futures.
    We got a warhawk here. Lol

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    Fair elections seems a lost notion to resident right wingers.

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    Sorry, but the liberal media doesn't have any room to complain about another en y promoting one candidate over another. They've been in Hillary's pocket since day one and did all they could to trash Trump and get her elected. Now were supposed to listen to them complain about hacked emails, that may have been provided by Russians, were used to level the playing field a bit? Sorry, don't care. Absolutely zero s given.
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    With these kind of things, the details aren't worth following. When I need to do something, someone will make it apparent and then I'll think about it. Before then it's just corporate driven "yellow" journalism hoping to ensnare viewers.

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    Fair elections seems a lost notion to resident right wingers.
    Pla udes seem to be the only thing the left have these days.

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    DMC dodging the point with his typical facile deflections.

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    DMC -slapping butthurt liberals as usual.

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    CN on queue with his facile posturing.

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    gyBlumpkins digging through his thesaurus to properly express his butthurt.

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    Sorry, but the liberal media doesn't have any room to complain about another en y promoting one candidate over another.
    Since when is it every media outlet's responsibility to equally promote 2 candidates? At what point is one candidate objectively a worse choice than the other, and if so, is it the responsibility of the media to ignore that?

    "I'm okay with a hostile foreign government influencing* the election of a steaming turd because the liberal media favored the steaming turd's opponent."

    That's kind of stupid, all due respect.


    *allegedly

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    DMC dodging the point with his typical facile deflections.

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    I would argue that the media's focus, whether intended or not, actually gave Trump a leg up. Most of their coverage was focused on whatever Trump said that offended their Manhattan-centric standards and other things that Middle America didn't ultimately care about.

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    The click count concept only came about in the past decade.
    I mean media profits. Sorry I didn't specify.

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