Give Davis Bertans all of Kyles minutes

[bklynspursfan]

And Kyle Andersons' lateral quickness? Funny how Anderson gets a pass with poor lateral quickness. Every game I've seen him play this year, Bertans does more than a fine job staying in-front of his man when there's a switch on a wing. He has similar lateral quickness as Kyle, except he's a better athlete than Kyle in the Parsons mold to a degree. Not only all this, but Bertans' skillset on offense fits at the SF a lot more than Kyle's does.

Yea.. Guys have gotten by Anderson easily at times, and sometimes it seems like he just "accepts" it and assumes the help will be there and watches the play unfold. There isn't a large enough sample size to assess Bertans in that regard, but with his athleticism, 1 would assume it would allow him to recover more quickly if it happens to him.

[Chinook]

And Kyle Andersons' lateral quickness? Funny how Anderson gets a pass. Every game I've seen him play this year, Bertans does more than a fine job staying in-front of his man when there's a switch on a wing. He has similar lateral quickness as Kyle, except he's a better athlete than Kyle in the Parsons mold to a degree. Not only all this, but Bertans' skillset on offense fits at the SF a lot more than Kyle's does.

Well I came into this season thinking Anderson would be the backup four, so I don't know exactly what this is saying. But I don't think Bertans' perimeter D has been all that great at all. At best, he looks like a big switching out on a small. A lot of Davis' defensive issues seem like mental ones that he can overcome with experience.

[MaNu4Tres]

Well I came into this season thinking Anderson would be the backup four, so I don't know exactly what this is saying.

The point of the thread is Bertans should see all of Andersons minutes when Anderson plays the SF. My post was in reference to that premise.

Bertans has done a fine job when switching out on the perimeter. He's a good athlete and lighter on his feet than Kyle IMO ( subjective but that's my opinion).

[Mnky]

Saying bertans can't play the 3 because of his lateral quickness while saying kyle is a 3 goes to show how little thought is put into some of these takes..

[Chinook]

Saying bertans can't play the 3 because of his lateral quickness while saying kyle is a 3 goes to show how little thought is put into some of these takes..

Not really. Kyle is a relatively proven defensive player. Bertans isn't. If there was evidence that Davis compensated for his lack of quickness well, then that would be one thing. But there isn't, so equating him to Kyle makes as much sense as using Green's dribbling as an excuse to dismiss concern over Murray's handle.

[dabom]

Being a decent defender doesn't mean good 1on1 defense.

[TheDoctor]

if only pop stopped coddling a guy who paid $150 to try out for the toros

[100%duncan]

I might agree he wasn't coddled, but it turns out that it's part of the fabric of the universe and can't be rewritten at this point.

What is? This reasoning of why kyle doesnt play as much as simmons was made up by your co-bishop at church of head

[Chinook]

What is? This reasoning of why kyle doesnt play as much as simmons was made up by your co-bishop at church of head

Yeah, I think the only way to get out from under that law of nature would be to build a parallel universe and move everything from this universe over there.

[DAF86]

Spurs should try to sign Bertans to a long ass deal. He's the power forward of the future.

[TimDunkem]

What is? This reasoning of why kyle doesnt play as much as simmons was made up by your co-bishop at church of head

This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard on this forum and that's really saying something. Simmons has had his leash pulled by Pop more than any other player these past two seasons yet he's somehow being "coddled". It wasn't Simmons Pop stuck in the starting lineup when Green was out, it was Anderson...But don't you dare call out SAG on all the nonsense she posts or else you're simply "obsessed".

[Spur|n|Austin]

just give him enough minutes to score 1 pt

[spurraider21]

just give him enough minutes to score 1 pt

That's a misleading cause-effect thingy though. Bertans has mostly played in garbage time

[dabom]

That's a misleading cause-effect thingy though. Bertans has mostly played in garbage time

That's a really good take.

[spurraider21]

That's a really good take.

It's similar to nfl stats when teams have more rushing attempts on wins... When in reality teams with the lead tend to run the ball more to kill clock

It's not to say Bertans isn't a good player, and I've been advocating for him to get more minutes all season. Just putting that stat into context

[dabom]

It's similar to nfl stats when teams have more rushing attempts on wins... When in reality teams with the lead tend to run the ball more to kill clock

You answered the best way ever tbh. Not sarcastic at all either.

[spurraider21]

You answered the best way ever tbh. Not sarcastic at all either.

Considering your boban takes I'm sure you take those stats seriously. You don't get the benefit of the doubt

[dabom]

Considering your boban takes I'm sure you take those stats seriously. You don't get the benefit of the doubt

Production per is different than arbitrary superfluous data.

[Spur|n|Austin]

That's a misleading cause-effect thingy though. Bertans has mostly played in garbage time

yeah I know.. Stein also spelled his name wrong; not taking the stat too seriously.

[objective]

That's a misleading cause-effect thingy though. Bertans has mostly played in garbage time

It's not, I did the research. It's not like you think.

Only 2 of his 14 games of scoring games are from blowouts where he scored in the 4th of blowouts & didn't play in the 1st half, @GSW & vs TOR

Another 2 games had him play in the first half of compe ive games but not score until the fourth and garbage time, vs. NOP, vs. BRK

1 game had him play in the first half, but not score until the fourth of a compe ive game, vs. BOS, scoring when the Spurs were +7.

But he has 9 games where he played and scored in the first half of games, and the leads/deficits when he scored were +0, +3, -4, -2, -14 @ Boston, -1, -10 @ MIL, -1, & -5

Contrary to conventional wisdom, he doesn't put up points in garage time.

[objective]

Of his 16 scoreless games, he played first half minutes in 5 of them. Spurs are 3-2 in those games.

Games where Bertans didn't play at all: 3-4

[r0drig0lac]

It's not, I did the research. It's not like you think.

Only 2 of his 14 games of scoring games are from blowouts where he scored in the 4th of blowouts & didn't play in the 1st half, @GSW & vs TOR

Another 2 games had him play in the first half of compe ive games but not score until the fourth and garbage time, vs. NOP, vs. BRK

1 game had him play in the first half, but not score until the fourth of a compe ive game, vs. BOS, scoring when the Spurs were +7.

But he has 9 games where he played and scored in the first half of games, and the leads/deficits when he scored were +0, +3, -4, -2, -14 @ Boston, -1, -10 @ MIL, -1, & -5

Contrary to conventional wisdom, he doesn't put up points in garage time.

nice, at least vs Celtics and Hornets he was an important part in the result

[TimDunkem]

yeah I know.. Stein also spelled his name wrong; not taking the stat too seriously.

It's not, I did the research. It's not like you think.

Only 2 of his 14 games of scoring games are from blowouts where he scored in the 4th of blowouts & didn't play in the 1st half, @GSW & vs TOR

Another 2 games had him play in the first half of compe ive games but not score until the fourth and garbage time, vs. NOP, vs. BRK

1 game had him play in the first half, but not score until the fourth of a compe ive game, vs. BOS, scoring when the Spurs were +7.

But he has 9 games where he played and scored in the first half of games, and the leads/deficits when he scored were +0, +3, -4, -2, -14 @ Boston, -1, -10 @ MIL, -1, & -5

Contrary to conventional wisdom, he doesn't put up points in garage time.

Thanks for providing facts instead of blindly following or dismissing the stat.