So fewer troops than needed made it ok to withdraw.
Saying it in a live debate with millions watching makes it better? She was brought to task about her flip flopping just to get votes during a ing debate.
Real person: not a career politician
The problem with people like you is that you think because you dabble in something it makes you educated.
And they'd have no teeth if not for the other half of the dem party that accepts their ground gained but laments their transgressions toward any hope of regaining a foothold in congress. You're either with them or against them. You seem to be lost in the ether between liberal SJW and half-assed pseudo republicrat.
So Obama was a "real person" when elected president? Nobody in their right mind would call 2 terms in the Illinois state senate and 1 terms as a US senator a career politician.
He was a 12 year politician prior to running for office. That was his current career. That was as long as he had a job as a professor. So yeah, he's a career politician. Donald Trump never held public office. Obama had 3 terms in the Illinois state senate. Get your facts straight, sloppy joe. Until you clean it up I'm not going to spar with you, .
But Donald isn't a real person either however his election might help create a path for a real person since it's obvious extensive grooming and background cleansing isn't necessarily required to get elected.
You said that. Don't play games.
More troops to begin with to maintain ins utions.
We had a general basically get fired because he wanted over 300,000
He had thought about the fact that the Iraqis would not be wonderful hosts.
Something that totally escaped Rumsfeld and Cheney.
Right. In 2008, the word was Barry didn't have enough experience to be POTUS. But yeah, he was a career politician
spar
you haven't won a round yet
no forced wealth transfer
Then wtf are you posting here for?
So you don't dabble? You have your PHD in military tactics and Politics, good for you.
Real people...
You figured out how many terms Obama served in the Illinois senate yet?Right. In 2008, the word was Barry didn't have enough experience to be POTUS. But yeah, he was a career politician
spar
you haven't won a round yet
Armchair generals abound! Start a blog or better yet, do a podcast if you can string a sentence together without stumbling over your ego.
Look in the mirror Mr. Early Withdrawal
And they are my opinions. If you don't like it ignore is useful.
Not enough troops! (gets to Baghdad in a week on foot).
In comes Obama... "time to leave, hey neighbors, we're pulling out, come kill these idiots we trained and oh, here's 400 million for coke money".
Obama ran on the platform of setting a deadline for withdrawal.
So the what?
What did I post about Obama?
You act like GWB admin was the reason for the long, drawn out Iraq theater but Obama pulled troops too early. You don't need more troops if everyone is sitting around waiting to get bombed.
Same with the stan, you got OBL and he wasn't even there, now what? Stay and regulate it? Not going to happen yet there we are, still killing Taliban. Pretty sure we've killed more than existed prior to the invasion, and how many 2nd in command types have we killed? It used to be one a day. It's not interesting now so now it's all about whatever covert objective we were really there for, certainly not chasing terrorists.
They could not secure weapon caches all over the country. There was no lawful presence in many cities. Just go back and read about the aftermath in the first place. It was done half assed because it could not sell full ahead.
Its not about just getting to Baghdad. Jesus, you are older than I am and you don't even read or understand.
I dont buy your apparent thinking that all it required is not pulling out. Do it overwhelmingly in the first place. , it might not even have worked then.
Yes. My opinion. We are all arm chair QBs.
He didn't complete his third term.You figured out how many terms Obama served in the Illinois senate yet?
AFAIK Obama was never challenged by a reality tv star. Was that when he was running for the Illinois state senate?
And you voted for that platform.
Is this your bad faith retort? What's your point, that I am somehow at fault?And you voted for that platform.
Doesn't matter, he still served 3 terms else all the records are lying.
Your candidate was beaten by a reality TV star.
Of course you're not at fault. But, you voted for a candidate that campaigned on setting a deadline for withdrawal from Iraq. He won and did exactly that. Now you're whining about it like a pussy. Hindsight's 20/20.
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no he wasn't.
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Damn if I don't look at the once empty spot at my side and D is again present & accounted for. The tears on my pillow bespeaked the pain that had been in my heart.
CHARGE!!!!!!!!!
If you were a Bernie person, your candidate was cucked by someone who was beaten by a reality TV star. That's even worse.
Then you agree it wasn't GWB's troop count, rather the early withdrawal that exacerbated the issue?
You're trying to introduce a red herring but the issue is whether GWB or Obama is at fault, not who voted for whom. I voted for both.
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