Parker tripped, but the actual breakdown was on Pau/LMA. Gasol was supposed to come out instead with Green filling in for him. But LMA moved up when he was "one pass away", which gave them no ability to rotate to help him.
Nice post man.I think we see the same thing, the difference is whether we think its a fatal flaw or not regarding Tony and Pau. And I completely agree with your point on Simmons. His defense has come a long way. And LMA deserves a lot more love on here. He was never known for his d in Portland and he's really put in the effort since coming to SA. As a matter of fact LMA has sacrificed money (Portland could have paid him more), stats, and being the alpha dog to come be on a winner. And I haven't seen much diva from him. He deserves a lot of ST love, tbh.
If Murray has even 80% the trajectory of Kawhi. Watch out.
Nice post man.
I've been wrong before. Twice, I think.
Some people here have good points. I guess comparing the Spurs' defense to past Spurs' defenses doesn't mean much. Looking at the other teams, the Spurs are still better than most. When it comes to playoffs, though, I'd still rather think the Spurs were counting on riding a smothering D. It's not going to happen. I might as well just get used to it.
that's exactly what a lot of people in ST are saying for weeks
- Kawhi did not regress defensively significantly anyway
- Kawhi numbers are heavily impacted by the fact he is playing without Tim Duncan
- Kawhi is playing with a SL with Pau and Tony, LMA D is underrated but he is no Duncan even 40 y/o Duncan
- Spurs D is among the best this year but significantly worst than last year like the rest of the NBA
- Dedmon impact on D is huge as highlighted a lot here
also as said, I doubt Dedmon and Simmons see a lot of minutes in POs
I agree with you that it seems to fall on Parker.
- Kawhi did not regress defensively significantly anyway
- Kawhi numbers are heavily impacted by the fact he is playing without Tim Duncan
- Kawhi is playing with a SL with Pau and Tony, LMA D is underrated but he is no Duncan even 40 y/o Duncan
- Spurs D is among the best this year but significantly worst than last year like the rest of the NBA
- Dedmon impact on D is huge as highlighted a lot here
also as said, I doubt Dedmon and Simmons see a lot of minutes in POs
Stick with what you do best.... trolling avante and creating weird thread in the club that nobody gives a about tbh
So you think Parker is worth his salary?
LMAO, Brazil - "Don't you ing agree with me, troll!"
Every wing defender gets his defense affected by the lack of decent rim protector.
- Kawhi did not regress defensively significantly anyway
- Kawhi numbers are heavily impacted by the fact he is playing without Tim Duncan
- Kawhi is playing with a SL with Pau and Tony, LMA D is underrated but he is no Duncan even 40 y/o Duncan
- Spurs D is among the best this year but significantly worst than last year like the rest of the NBA
- Dedmon impact on D is huge as highlighted a lot here
also as said, I doubt Dedmon and Simmons see a lot of minutes in POs
A a good wing defender will:
1-play the line pass
2-deny his man the ball
3-contest his man's shots
4-forced his man to the weak hand
5-funnel him down to his team-rim protector.
So it's not about Tim, it's about the guy who is replacing Tim.
Spurs lost a great defender in the paint but the new guy isn't even decent to good. They could have signed a better defender to complete the starting five but looked for an offensive big.
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Thanks for posting the article
The switching also killed us against Cavs on the road last regular season.
LeBron finished at the rim a lot wih Mills and Manu defending him because Kyle and Boris switched on their guards, Cavs exploted mismatches with Spurs switching.
I'm not a big fan of switching in every play against every team. We have the best perimter defensive duo in the league and letting our bigs switching in their guys, anulate our advantage in the perimeter on defense.
More teams are shooting more threes, which leads to more points per possession in the long run across the board. That's why we are seeing a e in points or points per 100 possessions.
Agree. It was the same thing with him in last playofffs.
In last season, we said here "Bobo and DWest are having rebounding issues but it's just regular season, in playoffs Pop won't put them together and will play LMA more minutes with Bobo or West depending who is having the better night..."
Guess what? Pop played Bobo-West together like he did in the regular season and they get outplayed by OKC bigs.
Pop won't change his lineups in playoffs until the elimination game and that will cost the Spurs other loss in playoffs.
I hadn't looked since early in the season. I knew the 3PA were up, but damn. Just a quick glance - it looks like teams are taking about 2.5-3 more 3PA's per game, from top to bottom. That's a big increase. Looks like pace is up overall, too.
One thing that hasn't changed so much is FG% and 3P%. But they're definitely jacking up a lot more 3's than they used to. Today's NBA, I guess.
Per Lowe, with Pau and Tony in the line up, they are no 5 defense in the league. If Spurs fans hate on those guys for defense it's bc they were going to do it no matter what the stats say.Having posted this I really hope this thread does not devolve into an anti-Tony or Pau thread.
The whole point to me about finishing games with Gasol is that he doesn't really provide much offense, so why isn't Dedmon closing games with his superior defense? Overall, Gasol is the much better offensive player, but at the end of games, his offense doesn't really come into play. It doesn't make sense closing games with him.
Pau - 12 PPG, 16 points per/36 minutes. Against starters.
Dedmon - 4.7 PPG, 11 points/36 minutes. Mostly against subs.
Pau scores at a better pace than Dedmon. Much as I hate to mention it, when Pau does drop out to the 3P line, he's shooting 46%. (Averaging about 1 attempt per game.) Pau is more of a scoring threat than Dedmon. It's his lousy-ass defense that's a problem at the end of a close game.
But again Pau and Tony with other starters are around no 5 in the league on defense. He's not good at pick n roll d, but Pau is long so he does provide some rim protection (and Tim wasn't good against PNR last year either). But Pau shoots 50% from long 2s, over 40% from 3, and he is a great passer. So I can see the Spurs gambling with his D to take advantage of his offensive skills in a close game. Obviously it also depends on the team and matchups.
A recipe for disaster.
Look at the last play against Suns. For a stupid reason they gave the ball to him, he won't make the last shot and it's likely he'll miss his FTs if he gets fouled.
No, I wouldn't close playoffs games with three vet players like Parker, Manu and Gasol together on the court, it can't be good... Choose one of them but not the three.
Tony is terrible but not Parker. Trade Tony but keep Parker.
This play is similar to last Spurs play against Bucks, drive and dish...Manu missed his shot. Sure, Danny missed other shots, Bertans too. But I like Spurs chance with an open Danny/Davis' shot over a tired Manu's.
If Pau wasn't fouled, he would have passed Manu the ball to shoot the 3...? Two close games in a week with a last Manu' shot. Like it's 2005?? Like the previous Bucks game wasn't happened?
Not a knock on Manu. But it's pretty obvious that old players get tired at the end of the games. They can't make the shots they usually do, they can't beat their man, can't run back to defend after a turnover...Can't compete against elite teams in playoffs with 3 slow guys together.
Pop should stop relying on them at the end of games.
Maybe you're not getting what I'm saying. I'm saying Pau does hardly any scoring at the end of games, so why finish games with him? He scores more of his points earlier in the game. He doesn't do much on offense the last 5 minutes of the game and he's also a liability to miss free throws. No reason to close games with him over Dedmon.
This is exactly what I'm saying.
Last edited by Ice009; 01-17-2017 at 05:23 AM.
I think basketball talk is not your strength.. your stuff is being a weirdo and troll avante.. thats what you are good at
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