Spurs: Kawhi is the closest thing we've seen to MJ

[Bynumite]

You better pray for Kawhi to not ring with the Spurs as the top dog, 'cause that's all it will take for folks to have him over Kobe in the all-time list. He's already playing better and in a more efficient way than Kobe ever dreamed of, tbh.

Kiwi is borderline top 50 right now. You're delusional if you think a ring this season would suddenly put him in the top 10 conversation but then again you think Manu>Dirk

[DAF86]

Did i say anything about accomplishments and accolades? No.

As far as skills and fundamentals, Kobe and MJ are at the same level imo with MJ being more athletically gifted than Kobe.

What a cliche, "nothing saying", empty phrase, tbh.

Ok, please explain me what did MJ and Kobe did in terms of "skills and fundamentals" that Kawhi doesn't?

[DAF86]

Kiwi is borderline top 50 right now. You're delusional if you think a ring this season would suddenly put him in the top 10 conversation.

I wasn't necessarily talking about this season, tbh. If Kawhi keeps this progression and wins one or two more championships, along the way, as the top dog. He probably finishes ahead of Kobe in the all-time list, tbh.

[Bynumite]

I wasn't necessarily talking about this season, tbh. If Kawhi keeps this progression and wins one or two more championships, along the way, as the top dog. He probably finishes ahead of Kobe in the all-time list, tbh.

That's a lot of ifs and buts. As we know things don't always go as planned.

Midget was supposed to be the undisputed GOAT by now but that world cup trophy seems to be out of his reach.

[Bynumite]

What a cliche, "nothing saying", empty phrase, tbh.

Ok, please explain me what did MJ and Kobe did in terms of "skills and fundamentals" that Kawhi doesn't?

I've seen all 3 play and Kiwi is not on their level technically. Go watch some video or something, i don't know

[DAF86]

That's a lot of ifs and buts. As we know things don't always go as planned.

Midget was supposed to be the undisputed GOAT by now but that world cup trophy seems to be out of his reach.

I agree son, a lot can happen. That's why I said you should pray for Kawhi to never ring as the top dog, tbh.

Now, I'm more interested in what fundamentals you think Kawhi is lacking than MJ and Kobe had, tbh. Could you please elaborate on that?

[DAF86]

I've seen all 3 play and Kiwi is not on their level technically. Go watch some video or something, i don't know

Just what I thought, tbh.

[Blake]

I wasn't necessarily talking about this season, tbh. If Kawhi keeps this progression and wins one or two more championships, along the way, as the top dog. He probably finishes ahead of Kobe in the all-time list, tbh.

Good lord. Lol

[ambchang]

Did i say anything about accomplishments and accolades? No.

As far as skills and fundamentals, Kobe and MJ are at the same level imo with MJ being more athletically gifted than Kobe.

Is shooting 40% a result of fundamentals?

[DAF86]

Good lord. Lol

Oh, look the "I don't make homer comments so I'm cool" guy.

[monosylab1k]

lol I always laugh when somebody calls me a homer.

I've been called a homer many times regarding Duncan, Manu, Kawhi, Messi, etc and I have always ended up being right. Always.

Of course the same folks that call me a homer, ignore the many times I have declared the Spurs had no chance at the championship, when I predicted them to lose playoffs series, when I said players from other teams deserved awards more than a Spurs one, etc.

I'm not a homer, I'm just more knowledgeable and sensible than most people and sometimes I use these traits to say things that don't fit the common perception. When I do it with teams and players of other teams it's OK, but when I do it with a Spurs player some folks call me a homer. That's my very, very humble truth, tbh.

[DAF86]

Angry you didn't get Okafot yet?

P/S: Did you really took the time to edit the lol smiley face on my original comment?

[monosylab1k]

I'll ELE bet you that SA doesn't get past the 2nd round, tbh.

[DAF86]

I'll ELE bet you that SA doesn't get past the 2nd round, tbh.

You really want me to send you there again?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213228

[Blake]

Oh, look the "I don't make homer comments so I'm cool" guy.

Oh look, the Manu>Dirk but I'm not a homer guy

[DAF86]

Oh look, the Manu>Dirk but I'm not a homer guy

Do you think is too far stretched to think Kawhi could, someday, win a championship or two as the main guy with the Spurs?

[monosylab1k]

You really want me to send you there again?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213228

Taking the bet or not?

[Killakobe81]

Oh look, the Manu>Dirk but I'm not a homer guy

Iirc he also would take him over Kobe and Wade ...but i cant say for sure if that was him that posted that upstairs a few years back

[Kyle Orton]

spurfan has come a long way from only caring about rings tbh

[DAF86]

Taking the bet or not?

To tell you the truth I'm not that confident about the Spurs this season, for exactly the same reason I've been on the Kawhi for MVP wagon since very early on the season: this is a glorified one man team, and those don't tend to do too well in the playoffs.

We have the worst rotation of guards in the entire NBA (not just playoffs teams, the entire NBA. Even your Mavs with those D-league signs get more production out of their guards than the Spurs) and giving the ball in the post to Aldridge is as good as a turnover right now.

The only thing that prevents me from definitely assuring that the Spurs are second round fodder is that it seems like we are going to face the Rockets in the 2nd round, and they also are a very flawed one man team. Still, they are built in a way that it would only take a hot shooting streak for them to knock any other team off in a 7 games series. So, even though I think the Spurs are better, I don't feel comfortable betting on a Spurs-Rockets series.

But I guess that if you really want to bet I'm in, I didn't plan to post much after the Spurs lost this season anyway.

[DAF86]

Iirc he also would take him over Kobe and Wade ...but i cant say for sure if that was him that posted that upstairs a few years back

No, it wasn't me. I never trully argued Manu > Dirk either, fwiw.

[DAF86]

spurfan has come a long way from only caring about rings tbh

There's nothing wrong with cheering for guys to get individual awards when you know you are not good enough to win it all, tbh. Last night was the most fun I had watching an NBA game in a long time. That's what being a fan is all about, not always has to be championship or bust, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Did i say anything about accomplishments and accolades? No.

As far as skills and fundamentals, Kobe and MJ are at the same level imo with MJ being more athletically gifted than Kobe.

Except that part where Jordan was way more efficient than Kirbs.

Kobe had some impressive footwork, moves, and was the best difficult shot maker in NBA history, but I can't see how he's Jordan's equivalent technically when Mike would sink those low-post fadeaways at a much higher rate.

[monosylab1k]

There's nothing wrong with cheering for guys to get individual awards when you know you are not good enough to win it all, tbh. Last night was the most fun I had watching an NBA game in a long time. That's what being a fan is all about, not always has to be championship or bust, tbh.

sounds downright 2006 era Suns fan-esque. Must suck knowing deep down your team has no shot at a le, despite all the regular season success.

[DAF86]

sounds downright 2006 era Suns fan-esque. Must suck knowing deep down your team has no shot at a le, despite all the regular season success.

Not really, it has been a very entertaining season for me, tbh. What must really suck is watching a below .500 team for an entire season, can you tell me how does that feel? I have never experienced it, tbh.