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    TSA apparently still doesn't know a President cannot order a wiretap.
    Infowars says that Obama can and did. Also that liberals are putting chemicals in the water supply to turn frogs gay. So, you know, legit stuff.

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    TSA apparently still doesn't know a President cannot order a wiretap.
    What part of 50 U.S. Code § 1802 are you having trouble with today? The President can order surveillance without a court order. FACT.

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    He most certainly cant order it by himself.

    The President may authorize, through the Attorney General, electronic surveillance without a court order for the period of one year.
    The Attorney General is required to make a certification of these conditions under seal to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court,[11] and report on their compliance to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.[12]

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    quoting supporting evidence of the President being able to order surveillance without a court order.

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    Through his AG.

    Just like he cant order wiretaps, he cant order surveilance by himself. He does it through the Attorney General. How ing stupid are you, guy?

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    This again. I've made it very clear that this statute DOES NOT APPLY to surveillance of trump or any American

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    This again. I've made it very clear that this statute DOES NOT APPLY to surveillance of trump or any American
    You're in law, right?

    Can the prez himself, order a wiretap or order surveillance without the attorney general?

    That's what TSA is still hunged up on. He thinks the president can personally do it without the check and balance.

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    why would NSA NOT tap Trash tower, with bank of china and russian mafiya etc in there?

    Clapper was exposed as liar, and NSA taps anything and everything at anytime they want

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    You're in law, right?

    Can the prez himself, order a wiretap or order surveillance without the attorney general?

    That's what TSA is still hunged up on. He thinks the president can personally do it without the check and balance.
    The AG needs to sign off on it, but I'm sure the AG will go along with what his boss says, but that's not the point. The statute makes clear that it only applies to exclusively foreign communications

    Post 2391 of this thread
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8944376

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    The AG needs to sign off on it, but I'm sure the AG will go along with what his boss says, but that's not the point. The statute makes clear that it only applies to exclusively foreign communications

    Post 2391 of this thread
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8944376
    You cleared it up fine last time. The President can order surveillance without a court order.

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    You cleared it up fine last time. The President can order surveillance without a court order.
    But not in any manner that is relevant to trump. Which is why it's misleading to keep bringing it up here. Not to mention it's not a unilateral order and there is the formality of having the AG write a declaration

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    But not in any manner that is relevant to trump. Which is why it's misleading to keep bringing it up here. Not to mention it's not a unilateral order and there is the formality of having the AG write a declaration
    I didn't bring it up, but thank you for clearing up that my statement is correct.

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    But..you're not.

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    I didn't bring it up, but thank you for clearing up that my statement is correct.
    It's correct if you operate under the assumption that the AG will always be a puppet for the president (to the extent that he'd perjure himself) and if you limit the scope of it to exclusively foreign communications

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    You cleared it up fine last time. The President can order surveillance without a court order.

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    It's correct if you operate under the assumption that the AG will always be a puppet for the president (to the extent that he'd perjure himself) and if you limit the scope of it to exclusively foreign communications
    My statement never said anything about Trump or the President by himself, so again, thank you for confirming my statement to be correct.

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    My statement never said anything about Trump or the President by himself, so again, thank you for confirming my statement to be correct.
    Except you brought it up in the context of trumps wiretap claim

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    Except you brought it up in the context of trumps wiretap claim
    In this most recent discussion brought up by djohn2oo8...no, I did not.

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    WTF is with Stones head tho? Looks like Beetlejuice from Howard Stern lol


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    Sorry for interrupting the serious business of this thread..plz carry on..

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    WTF is with Stones head tho? Looks like Beetlejuice from Howard Stern lol

    Well o there chap.


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    Well o there chap.


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    Well o there chap.


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    It's going to be hilarious if all of these investigations into Trump/Russia end up opening the huge can of worms that is the Clinton/Podesta/Uranium One/Russia connection.

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    It's going to be hilarious if all of these investigations into Trump/Russia end up opening the huge can of worms that is the Clinton/Podesta/Uranium One/Russia connection.
    Re alert.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a18fb9339aa5

    Let not your brain explode with the facts.

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