Fortunate enough the Spurs are very top heavy at the wings with Kawhi, Green (for his D).
There's unknown variables regarding who will provide the depth, Manu retiring? Simmons signing a 1+1 deal? Hanga coming over? The draft, will they draft a wing? Will a Free Agent vet come sign for cheap Korver, PJ Tucker? Will an unknown, out of the box, FA come out of no where like Jaren Jackson, Stephen Jackson, Danny Green, Gary Neal, Simmons? At least Spurs have Kawhi and Green ( the best defensive wing tandem in the league). The point guard position is so bad at the top that the 3rd string rookie has the most talent (IMO).
i love our starting wings but am not so thrilled with the bench wings. KA has a nice basketball IQ and lacks the athleticism or tenacity and simmons lacks the IQ. yes, PG is the most critical need (we have the worst PGs of all the western conference playoff teams), but if we want to get over the hump against the dubs, we really need to have some depth there. and yes, we are lucky that this is going to be a deeper draft.
Reality is already smacking Tony (and everybody else) in the face. Last night was bad but it wasn't an aberration.
Dijon's injury is a tragedy for him as well as the team. I was calling for Pop to turn over the keys to Dijon back before the ASG, even though I knew that Pop was unlikely to do it. Now the team can only look forward to next season, realistically. But Dijon needs to be designated starter before the season even begins.
definitely.
Chris Paul.
Both sides will make it work...and yes PATFO will move Parker if it means getting Paul for twice the price..Because he's 3x the player.
he pulls you back in tho, I heard...
Won't happen. Pretty sure he's already verbally agreed with LAC
Anything can happen.
Just ask DeAndre Jordan
And BTW the report was Paul expects the FULL MAX to STAY with Clippers...
PATFO will probably let Patty go, keep starting Tony, have Murray be the backup and sign a veteran 3rd string PG. If Murray shows enough improvement he might become the starter midseason.
i'm hoping the clippers get smashed in the first round so cp3 would be more likely to leave/clippers would be more likely to blow it up.
If George Hill price is too steep, PATFO should kick the tires on Bledose..Suns are apparently ready to move on..He is still only 27 and coming off a career year and on a nice contract ($15,000,000 expiring in 2019)..
I think that may be the answer. If Phoenix gets a top 3 pick they will probably take one of the elite PG's to pair with Booker and Chriss. There might a deal to be made that would get us Bledsoe. We could let Patty walk and maybe offer LMA for Bledsoe and Bender. It gives us a young big to fit into the mix and Bledsoe could start for a couple years while Murray become the backup.
If we can't pull off a deal like that then I say start Murray and bring TP off the bench for one year until his contract expires or see if Philly might want him and sign a back-up PG like Collison fill in when Murray is having a tough night.
Bledsoe is garbage.
why would George Hill come back to the spurs not knowing if he'd just be traded again?
- Parker is going to remain the starter, sometimes finisher and average around 25 mpg next season.
- Murray won't be handed a rotation spot, but he'll likely have a legit opportunity to earn one.
- Mills, if he's re-signed, isn't an impediment to that, since he can pair with him on both sides of the ball.
- If Mills isn't re-signed, they probably turn to a similar, inexpensive alternative, that's good enough to be the primary backup if Murray falters, but willing to accept being a part time rotation (depending on who primary backup shooting guard is, plus Parker injury/rest games) player if he doesn't. Brooks makes sense.
I'm not a big fan of Brooks but any addition would be decent. There is part of me that wonders if we would throw serious cash at George Hill and see if he wanted to come back. He's had an injury prone year but he is playing very well for the Jazz.
I'd be shocked if Spurs intend to pay Hill/ Rose their market value ( 20+ mil per year). I know Spurs are really really high on Murray. If they didn't have him or if they didn't feel that high on him, then I'd think they'd go after Hill or Jrue Holiday, but I don't think that will be the case because I know how high they are on Murray. Time will tell. If they stand pat at the PG position and let Mills walk ( which is what I think will happen), that will speak volumes on what they think of Murray.
As for the 3rd PG spot, I can see Spurs bringing in a vet like Shelvin Mack, Aaron Brooks, Calderon, or Sessions. Sessions may field higher than minimum -- maybe Calderon too. But those are options nonetheless.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-30-2017 at 04:13 PM.
As an inexpensive Mills replacement, he'd be ideal. Good enough to play ahead of Murray if he's not ready, not good enough to gripe about playing behind him if he is and capable of playing alongside him at times.
Barring a major move, where they ship out significant salary and don't get much back in return, they don't have serious cash to throw at anyone, who they either don't have Bird rights to or isn't restricted. As much as they'd probably like Hill back and he'd like to be back, it's just not feasible.
yeah, and the glimpses he has given us seem to back up their instincts. the last player the FO regarded this highly was Leonard. BUT the learning curve for a PG is much higher than any other position. I hope Murray dominates the summer league so we can have a better idea of where he is headed. And ing groin injuries suck!
There's a big misconception with that. In todays NBA, there's creators on the perimeter that manufacture most of the offense through the PnRs. Sure there's a lot of different sets to understand and learn in the half court offense but all 5 guys are responsible for just as much in regards to execution or executing. Point guards don't have the ball in their hands all the time anymore, the ball is in the hands of the best creators most of the time, but when the ball moves like how it does on the Spurs, other players have a lot of the same responsibility. It's not like the PG's are the ones calling plays and making all the calls on where everyone goes like AJ used to. Its not like that anymore. By no means am I saying PGs don't have a learning curve, its just that ALL players have just as much learning to do -- it's more balanced and the learning is more about learning the personnel and how everything fits within the offense and defense.
Murrays' hard work and elite work ethic will pay off and he'll be fine by next year. If Pop can give 19 yr old Tony Parker the keys in 01', surely he can do the same to Murray -- if Murray earns it.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-30-2017 at 04:25 PM.
nice points. he does meet the eye test in that when you see murray play you see he has that "it" factor. but there are times where you also see how limited he is. still, his limitations are offset by his potential, wingspan and athleticism. TP may have the experience but he now fails the eye test (as in, this dude is done).
This is what seems reasonable to me.
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