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    I'm starting to believe he stayed in OKC not because he cares about the team/city but because he has free reign to stat pad and chuck as much as he wants.

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    Westbrick update:

    44-118 for the series. 37%.

    Westbrook has missed 74 ing shots in this series.
    lol that missed another 20 tonight! MVP MVP MVP

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    According to every Thunder fan, the Thunder are unbeatable as long as their bigs get the out of the way to make sure their point guard gets rebounds. Because as we all know, ensuring the shortest player on the court gets the rebound is the key to winning playoff games.
    This season was the first time I ever heard such nonsense. With the Rockettes' dispatching OKC in the first round, maybe it will be the last time, too.

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    Hes a frustrating player tbh, love his drive but he needs to slow it down most of the time. In the 4th he always just goes full hero mode.
    Except he's never the hero.

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    I'm starting to believe he stayed in OKC not because he cares about the team/city but because he has free reign to stat pad and chuck as much as he wants.
    Welcome to me, 5 years ago.

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    OKC players this season ranked by FG%

    Imagine being worse than Anus Cancer. Just imagine it.

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    WB could be a real force if he just never shot a 3 again. Reminds me of Antoine Walker, jacking up terrible 3s cause "there are no 4s."

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    He's not that great. He's an all or nothing guy, like Kobe. He'll cost the team when it matters.
    I said

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    How ing stupid do you have to be to think "hey a guy flying at the other team's hoop with both hands I should block that "?

    Westbrook has negative bbiq. Maybe the most athletic player in the league outside of bron but I love the fact that his brain tells him that a 27 footer with 12 on the shot clock is a good playoff shot.

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    No tripdow my hommie swaggie doggie, HIS TEAM IS BAD COO COO COO CHOO!

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    He is about to join Dirk as the only other mvp to lose in the first round since the 7 game series became into effect. BTW, Dirk won 67 games that year. 20 less wins and you have Westbrook. If he indeed wins, it has to be the worst MVP ever.

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    Westbrook had one of the best series' in recent history, tbh, despite his ty team being a serious underdog vs. a loaded Rockets team..

    Westbrook played 194 minutes in the series’ five games, of which Houston won four. When Westbrook was on the floor (for 39 minutes per game), the Thunder outscored Houston by 4.9 points per 100 possessions. Taj Gibson (plus-13.7) and Steven Adams (plus-7.7) posted even better net ratings when they were on the court.

    When Westbrook wasn’t on the court, Oklahoma City was even worse than you probably thought. The Thunder were outscored by 51.3 points per 100 possessions while Westbrook watched from the bench, for a total of 46 minutes during the series. That’s about one full game, scattered throughout five games, of total inep ude.

    In real terms, when Westbrook sat this series, the Thunder were outscored 137-79 in 45.5 minutes of total court time. They lost by 58 points without Westbrook playing. For the entire series, Houston only outscored Oklahoma City by 43 points.
    tl;dr When Russ was on the floor, the Thunder outplayed and outscored the 3-seed Rockets..when he sat, the Thunder played like the worst team in NBA history, statistically

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    Does Russ taking all the usage during the RS make the thunder more dependent on him? Dude got cucked in the 1st round. Not MVP worthyness.

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    Does Russ taking all the usage during the RS make the thunder more dependent on him? Dude got cucked in the 1st round. Not MVP worthyness.
    They literally only have 2 other players who can create their own shot..one of them(Oladipo) got plenty of shots during the RS and vs. Houston in the playoffs, which resulted in a horrid performance..the other(Kanter) barely plays with Westbrook and Billy Donovan refuses to use him..

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    Kinda like lebron getting all these shooters around him then you can expect the dropoff to be the same The team is built around that player. The player is the problem when they cant win then.

    Could he post these stats with Durant last year? He is relatively the same player. Even bonehead 4th quarter plays and shooting.

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    They literally only have 2 other players who can create their own shot..one of them(Oladipo) got plenty of shots during the RS and vs. Houston in the playoffs, which resulted in a horrid performance..the other(Kanter) barely plays with Westbrook and Billy Donovan refuses to use him..
    He's been Russ the same russ for 3 years now. The only thing that improved was his usage.

    Everything is relative to his usage tbh. Great player, but not an MVP player.

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    Kinda like lebron getting all these shooters around him then you can expect the dropoff to be the same The team is built around that player. The player is the problem when they cant win then.

    Could he post these stats with Durant last year? He is relatively the same player. Even bonehead 4th quarter plays and shooting.
    Last year the rebounds between Adams and Westbrook were flip flopped in the playoffs. Westbrook averaged under 7 per game, while Adams was in double digits. Durant averaged more than Westbrook.

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    Westbrook had one of the best series' in recent history, tbh, despite his ty team being a serious underdog vs. a loaded Rockets team..



    tl;dr When Russ was on the floor, the Thunder outplayed and outscored the 3-seed Rockets..when he sat, the Thunder played like the worst team in NBA history, statistically

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    Sure. When you spend all season relegating your team to being more concerned about getting Russell a triple double than winning, you've made them useless when he's not on the floor. I mean, guys box out for the rebound and no point guard is there to grab it.

    You shouldn't be surprised that professional NBA players don't play well together in the playoffs if they've never really played together.

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    He's been Russ the same russ for 3 years now. The only thing that improved was his usage.

    Everything is relative to his usage tbh. Great player, but not an MVP player.
    I never disagreed with that, I made this thread years ago I don't think Westbrook improved his game, he just chose to take the path of entertainment, this year..

    Westbrook's historic season was for entertainment purposes, just as much as it was for winning games..it's perfectly fine to dislike his playing style or disagree with his potential MVP stats, yet still acknowledge that his supporting cast is horrible(which is shown by any on/off metric)..

    There are 2 primary goals for star players: Win and entertain

    In Westbrook's case, there's no plausible scenario where this OKC team was going to contend..the alternative was to entertain every night by volume shooting and getting numbers at a historic rate, the same way Kobe did during the dark days of the Lakers(2005-2007)..he was the most discussed player of the year, road fans were buying tickets to see him and chanting MVP, etc..

    There's this silly belief among fans that every player should convince himself that his team is a legit contender(even when they clearly aren't, based on the supporting cast) and they should play "the right way" nobody is coming to watch Andre Roberson shooting 10 open 3s per game, or Taj Gibson trying to make contested layups..OKC chose to the correct path, they went with entertainment and still managed to get playoff games for a team that had limited talent..

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    Sure. When you spend all season relegating your team to being more concerned about getting Russell a triple double than winning, you've made them useless when he's not on the floor. I mean, guys box out for the rebound and no point guard is there to grab it.

    You shouldn't be surprised that professional NBA players don't play well together in the playoffs if they've never really played together.
    Who are these players that were going to step up with increased responsibility?

    They couldn't even build a team in the simplest way, which would be to surround Westbrook with shooters like Houston did with Harden

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    OKC has had plenty of chances to win and never has. At that point you just have to blame the players involved. Russ being one of them.

    I'm just disagreeing with the notion of an MVP player.

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    Who are these players that were going to step up with increased responsibility?

    They couldn't even build a team in the simplest way, which would be to surround Westbrook with shooters like Houston did with Harden
    I guess we'll never know since the team decided an individual accolade was more important than building a contender. It's pointless to wait until the season is over before trying to make any hypothetical adjustments.

    The way they did it is obviously a shtick. How that can produce an MVP is beyond me. What's so valuable about a guy who's ultimate impact was 1 win in the 1st round?

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    I never disagreed with that, I made this thread years ago I don't think Westbrook improved his game, he just chose to take the path of entertainment, this year..

    Westbrook's historic season was for entertainment purposes, just as much as it was for winning games..it's perfectly fine to dislike his playing style or disagree with his potential MVP stats, yet still acknowledge that his supporting cast is horrible(which is shown by any on/off metric)..

    There are 2 primary goals for star players: Win and entertain

    In Westbrook's case, there's no plausible scenario where this OKC team was going to contend..the alternative was to entertain every night by volume shooting and getting numbers at a historic rate, the same way Kobe did during the dark days of the Lakers(2005-2007)..he was the most discussed player of the year, road fans were buying tickets to see him and chanting MVP, etc..

    There's this silly belief among fans that every player should convince himself that his team is a legit contender(even when they clearly aren't, based on the supporting cast) and they should play "the right way" nobody is coming to watch Andre Roberson shooting 10 open 3s per game, or Taj Gibson trying to make contested layups..OKC chose to the correct path, they went with entertainment and still managed to get playoff games for a team that had limited talent..
    What other team in the NBA or the history of the NBA would run that kind of gimmick for one player? Even the Lakers didn't do that for Kobe (but close).

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    A small-market team where the superstar runs the organization and they're terrified that he would leave

    The Lakers kind of did do that for Kobe in those seasons where he was taking 30+ shots, tbh..Lebron could, too, but he obviously never would..

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