Kawhi's offensive game is "antiquated."

[FkLA]

Me, Harlem, and some others were joking that the Spurs can't possibly lose to a team whose second best player is Trevor Ariza.

This was LMA's first bad game of the playoffs. He worked his ass off on the boards and chipped in with what he could offensively against a mammoth frontline. Parker had a resurgence. Mills was a 6MOY candidate early on. Danny Green is an RPM "powerhouse." Pau Gasol has been an assassin off the bench since the AS break. The Spurs are pretty deep. Keep in mind we won the season series against them 3-1.

I'm just saying Harden's style will get more out of role players than will Kawhi's style.

So the Spurs aren't antiquated? You're ridiculously biased in your descriptions btw. Parker has a good series and he's rejuvenated. Gordon has an entire, great 6MOY worthy season yet he's not rejuvenated but instead still a journeyman scrub.

No issues conceding that Harden's style will get more out of role players. He's a PG in a system that fits him like a glove. Kawhi is a big-bodied SF. He's not antiquated for his position at all.

[Em-City]

Me, Harlem, and some others were joking that the Spurs can't possibly lose to a team whose second best player is Trevor Ariza.

Ok the second-best player is ariza, but he is essentially on par with capela, anderson, gordon, lou williams, beverley in terms of impact. players 2-7 on the HOU roster are better than anyone on the spurs roster outside kawhi & in-form aldridge.

I'm just saying Harden's style will get more out of role players than will Kawhi's style.

this is what this thread is about, and i don't think thi has been disproven as yet. I agree with you, and it's probably why Kawhi would work great with another perimeter slasher/creator.. like a prime manu.

[midnightpulp]

So the Spurs aren't antiquated? You're ridiculously biased in your descriptions btw. Parker has a good series and he's rejuvenated. Gordon has an entire, great 6MOY worthy season yet he's not rejuvenated but instead still a journeyman scrub.

No issues conceding that Harden's style will get more out of role players. He's a PG in a system that fits him like a glove. Kawhi is a big-bodied SF. He's not antiquated for his position at all.

What other SFs primarily operate from post-ups and the midrange?

The Spurs are antiquated, but Kawhi is a part of that equation. I'm just saying that talent wise, the Spurs are better than the Rockets, and if Kawhi had a more "modern" style, Danny, Patty, and Manu would be bigger threats than they are. Harden would probably turn someone like Bertans into a nightly 15ppg threat.

Again, antiquated doesn't mean ineffective. It's entirely possible the Spurs win through controlling the boards and paint and wearing out the Rockets through length and size, old school style. Thunder almost did it to the 73 win Warriors last year. But the writing is on the wall for that style as the NBA "progresses" Pretty soon, it won't be possible for such a style to win.

[Nathan89]

LMA is a soft got and Green has 5 bad games for every good one. Come on man, just stop it.

Truth bomb.

[Nathan89]

He's surrounded by , you're acting as if he's surrounded by knock down shooters.

Spurs have the worst surrounding cast out of the remaining playoff teams.

[Nathan89]

What other SFs primarily operate from post-ups and the midrange?

The Spurs are antiquated, but Kawhi is a part of that equation. I'm just saying that talent wise, the Spurs are better than the Rockets, and if Kawhi had a more "modern" style, Danny, Patty, and Manu would be bigger threats than they are. Harden would probably turn someone like Bertans into a nightly 15ppg threat.

Again, antiquated doesn't mean ineffective. It's entirely possible the Spurs win through controlling the boards and paint and wearing out the Rockets through length and size, old school style. Thunder almost did it to the 73 win Warriors last year. But the writing is on the wall for that style as the NBA "progresses" Pretty soon, it won't be possible for such a style to win.

Neither Anderson nor Ariza average 15pts game. And that's in a system with all shooters. If Bertan's was one of many then yeah he could average that as well but not on a team that has Green, Pau, and Lma sharing the court.

[therealtruth]

Kawhi's got to learn to pass the ball. All of the great players were capable of averaging 5+ apg in the playoffs. It's all about making your teammates better.

[Nathan89]

Even Lebron James needs Kyrie at this point. Durant couldn't do anything without an elite pg. Kawhi's game is fine and especially for his position. He'd look a whole lot better if we had better teams that can shoot and penetrate. Meanwhile he has Green, Pau, and LMA that have no ability to dribble. It's impossible to win with that.

[RD2191]

Kawhi's got to learn to pass the ball. All of the great players were capable of averaging 5+ apg in the playoffs. It's all about making your teammates better.

LMAO. Pass it to who? Green was like 0-7 on wide open looks before he hit a couple late in the 3rd when we were already getting blown the fuk out. outta here with that weak .

[bic50]

Even Lebron James needs Kyrie at this point. Durant couldn't do anything without an elite pg. Kawhi's game is fine and especially for his position. He'd look a whole lot better if we had better teams that can shoot and penetrate. Meanwhile he has Green, Pau, and LMA that have no ability to dribble. It's impossible to win with that.

I heard that pau gasol is the Spurs best 3 point shooter outside of Leonard. . If true then thats unacceptable.

[bic50]

LMAO. Pass it to who? Green was like 0-7 on wide open looks before he hit a couple late in the 3rd when we were already getting blown the fuk out. outta here with that weak .

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[midnightpulp]

Bad bump, bro.

What did I argue in this thread? For Kawhi to attack the paint more, shoot 3s, instead of settling for 17-20 footers. He was taking 10 of those per game.

Look here:



Only 3 shots outside of the paint (aside from 3s, obviously).

I'm always right

[Nathan89]

"antiquated"

[pookenstein]

I really don't know how anybody is not getting what mid is repeating over and over again.
1. Kawhi is by far the best Spur.
2. He is shootig really ing great from midrange.
3. He could be even better/more dangrous if he took one or two less midrange J's and instead take one or two more 3s per game. He's pretty good at that too.
4. That would make live easier for every other Spur.

Rocket science.

[therealtruth]

The midrange is usually what teams give up in the playoffs. So I agree you have to be selective about it but you can't win a championship without being able to hit the mid range jumper because the better teams will run you off the 3 line and protect the paint.

[DAF86]

Rockets fans begging his players to start taking more midrange jumpers.

The truth is that in the playoffs, where D's toughen up, the midrange game is a must. Specially for go to guys that have to create for themselves and others. Role players can get away with just hitting threes or taking it to the basket, but number one options need to have all the tools to get his team tough buckets, when needed. And the midrange still is (and will probably always be) the premiere tough bucket getter.

We are lucky to have Kawhi, tbh.

[Thomas82]

Rockets fans begging his players to start taking more midrange jumpers.

The truth is that in the playoffs, where D's toughen up, the midrange game is a must. Specially for go to guys that have to create for themselves and others. Role players can get away with just hitting threes or taking it to the basket, but number one options need to have all the tools to get his team tough buckets, when needed. And the midrange is still is (and will probably always be) the premiere tough bucket getter.

We are lucky to have Kawhi, tbh.

Good post!!

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[gambit1990]

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mid: let me about our star player playing effectively instead of ing about our starting PG averaging ~5 assists per game.

mid would go on to say that assists per game isn't a good measurement

[gambit1990]

Lol, OP is the biggest got on this site.

[gambit1990]

calls kawhi's game antiquated while the starting PG doesn't make any player on the team better

[gambit1990]

Giannis is terrifying tbh...probably one of the few players in the league I'd trade Kawhi for

i'm glad OP and this got aren't a part of the FO.

[gambit1990]

i like giannis too... except i wouldn't trade kawhi for him you stupid cuck